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Old 12-17-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Special Report: Is America the sick man of the globe? | Reuters

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Mesirow's Swonk says rather than acknowledge the depths of the country's problems or the cost of fixing them, Democrats and Republicans have retreated into "faith-based ideological views of economics that do not reflect reality."

"We're still a nation in denial," she said. "If we had a 10-year deficit reduction plan we could include spending on necessary reforms. But America's political class is not willing to do that because the incoming Congress has decided gridlock is good and our politicians keep lying to us by telling us we can get out of this without pain."

"So we're going to get a double whammy of adding insult to injury by not focusing on a pro-growth fiscal policy and creating a very wealthy class of people," she added.
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Old 12-17-2010, 02:54 PM
 
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How is the incoming congress decide that gridlock is good when a lot of them aren't even in office yet?
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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One of the sick men...
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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How is the incoming congress decide that gridlock is good when a lot of them aren't even in office yet?
Because many among the next Congress "coming into the 112th Congress" are not newly elected.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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One of the sick men...
There we go.

Let's not pretend that the EU has their act together right now.
And the rest of the world? They can't get sick because they have nothing to throw up.

Any economic reform must be at an international level or it will do no good.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Democrats and Republicans are too concerned with penis size and one-upmanship. There is no grand vision or global or strategic view and the world is passing the US by.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:05 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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How is the incoming congress decide that gridlock is good when a lot of them aren't even in office yet?
Ask Senator John McCain. It was he who said "We are not the party of no, we are the party of HELL no".
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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How is the incoming congress decide that gridlock is good when a lot of them aren't even in office yet?
The republican strategy as minority was to hold the court hostage by dragging heels and negotiating in bad faith. There was no sound agreement they'd ever be making that didn't live up to their utopic vision of what America ought to be, rather than dealing with what IS.

Once in the majority they will continue their assault and neglect of anything that fails to support their think tank paradigms antithetical to the will of the people. Antithetical to what's best practice. Antithetical to America itself. Reaganomics on steroids is about to be forced down everyone's throats under the mistaken belief it's fiscal conservative. It is no such animal.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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Democrats and Republicans are too concerned with penis size and one-upmanship. There is no grand vision or global or strategic view and the world is passing the US by.
If you sufficiently dumb down the masses with propaganda, who they are forced to represent is what? Whomever owns that propaganda machine intentionally revising history & suppressing evidence. Food for thought.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:43 PM
 
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One of the sick men...
Yes it's something of a chicken egg conundrum, isn't it? I came to see some wisdom happening in Appalaicha among folks who decided your (general pronoun for western civilization) money was no good to them. I also see the wisdom behind the Amish saying similarly.

I can see the grievance the planet would have with America spawning these transnational corporations. History being honest proves the horn tooting of capitalism has religiously depended on slavery in one form or another. These days we've just relied upon NIMBY imports from people desperate enough to throw themselves under a bus. Is it possible to make an honest living in America, or anywhere, using capitalism? Not when money & markets are ultimately controlled by high stakes gamblers manipulating reality.

I fear we're headed for the same fate as communism. I don't see how it's possible to turn this around save for the law getting real and pointing high treason where it belongs. Through elaborate legal bafflings the law as it stands today only applies to ordinary citizens, not to it's government or elected officials, and not to corporations of largess. Our representative system controlled by propagandists have unofficially reinstated oligarchy. The rest of the dog and pony show is all pretense to occupy people's minds believing they're free.
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