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Old 02-15-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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It will never be changed. No politician will be willing to put their reputation on the line as to being the one that made abortion illegal. the backlash alone from the medical as well as the women in the community would be something that no one could recover from.
Laws dealing with topics like abortion are seldom changed overnight. Instead the changes come gradually - a regulation here, a restriction there.

How about a policy change of some sort that makes med students (even more) reluctant to become abortion doctors? Clinics would gradually close as existing abortion doctors retired.

Things like this happen all the time, and are much more effective in the long run than trying to tackle the issue head-on.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I posted your words as you said them. And your personal attacks do not change that
Please show me where I said someone who is born with a deformed arm should be killed.

Please show me where I said slaves or Jews should be killed.

You are deliberately misquoting me, which is deceitful and disgusting.

In other words, your arguments are so lame, you cannot defend them on an honest basis, you must rely on dishonesty to try to give them credibility.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Laws dealing with topics like abortion are seldom changed overnight. Instead the changes come gradually - a regulation here, a restriction there.

How about a policy change of some sort that makes med students (even more) reluctant to become abortion doctors? Clinics would gradually close as existing abortion doctors retired.

Things like this happen all the time, and are much more effective in the long run than trying to tackle the issue head-on.
So, you want more foreign trained doctors in this country.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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So kids with deformed arms and legs are not human either?
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No. Partially formed parts do not make a person.
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Please show me where I said someone who is born with a deformed arm should be killed.

Please show me where I said slaves or Jews should be killed.

You are deliberately misquoting me, which is deceitful and disgusting.

In other words, your arguments are so lame, you cannot defend them on an honest basis, you must rely on dishonesty to try to give them credibility.
there is your quote.
The analogy to the Jews is that the Germans made it legal the same argument is for abortion.
I see you have to attack me personaly because you can not discuss the murder of abortion rationally
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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No. Partially formed parts do not make a person.
^^^Here is my statement. You twist this into:

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So kids with deformed arms and legs are not human either?
And:

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I have a close friend born with a deformed arm and you claim he is not life


Again, I ask you, just WHERE did I say someone with deformed body parts is not person?

WHERE did I say your friend was not a person?

If a body part contsitutes a person, then a doctor who amputates a diabetic's diseased foot would be guilty of murder.

Personal attack? What do you call being quoted as saying something you NEVER said?

If you cannot argue your point without making up imaginary dialog, perhaps your point does not have enough merit to stand on it's own.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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So, you want more foreign trained doctors in this country.
Wow - now you're the one twisting words.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Wow - now you're the one twisting words.
Not really, if we do not thoroughly train our doctors, there will be doctors trained in other countries who will fill the void.

It is just common sense. That is what will happen.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:40 PM
 
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Not really, if we do not thoroughly train our doctors, there will be doctors trained in other countries who will fill the void.

It is just common sense. That is what will happen.
That is what may happen, depending on what other regulations and such get enacted.

But you stated that it was what I wanted. In point of fact, I never stated that I was in favor of such regulations/restrictions. I merely pointed out that such is the way that laws get changed all the time.

After you did so much screaming about having words shoved down your throat, I'd have thought you would be more sensitive. Guess you fooled me.
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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The baby is a human life.
Fetus does not equal a baby

A baby is defined as a child being born. A fetus hasn't been born. IT lives in the mother and depends on the mother.

The fact that you can't keep to scientific terms and have to throw out emotionally loaded words shows that your arguments are nothing but to create a hostile argument and you can't seperate yourself from scientific fact

A fetus is not a person
A fetus is not a child
A fetus is not a baby
A fetus is a bunch of cells that can't function outside of the mother's womb.
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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Fetus does not equal a baby

A baby is defined as a child being born. A fetus hasn't been born. IT lives in the mother and depends on the mother.

The fact that you can't keep to scientific terms and have to throw out emotionally loaded words shows that your arguments are nothing but to create a hostile argument and you can't seperate yourself from scientific fact

A fetus is not a person
A fetus is not a child
A fetus is not a baby
A fetus is a bunch of cells that can't function outside of the mother's womb.
Murder is illegal
Performing an abortion is NOT illegal by US laws

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