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View Poll Results: Do you approve of public school prayers?
Yes 17 18.68%
No 67 73.63%
Maybe, Depends 7 7.69%
Don't know 0 0%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-15-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Reality
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You don't need a minute of silence - that should be reserved
for when someone of national significance dies. If they haven't finished their homework - a minute isn't going to
make a difference
Someone of national significance dies every day, again 1 minute won't change anything about a school day. For students who spent 24 hours a day on their phone, laptop or whatever a moment of silence is never a bad thing.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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That's honestly horrible. WTH should the Mormon cult get special treatment with tax payer dollars?
Who said anything about tax payer dollars?

The LDS church conducts seminary classes off campus in a separate privately owned building with instructors whose salaries are paid by the LDS church. LDS seminary classes are held off campus in buildings paid for 100% by the LDS Church, taught by staff paid for 100% by the LDS Church.

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Do they offer special religious classes paid for by tax payer money for Jews or Muslims or Catholics or Protestants?
Does who offer these classes? Any religion in the state of Utah is free to do exactly the same thing as the LDS Church does. Of course, like the LDS Church, they would be expected to provide the building and the staff, since tax payer money is not used.

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There shouldn't be any religious indoctrination with taxpayer money and I hope the ACLU or some other worthy organization sues Utah to stop this practice.
This is pretty unlikely, since Seminary classes have been offered for probably 75 years or more. Tax payer funds have never been used, in case you hadn't picked up on that fact yet. It's absolutely absurd to suppose the ACLU or any other "worthy organization" would even think of suing the Church over this practice.

Seminary classes reduce class sizes in the regular high school classes, because the high schools rotate a segment of their population every period of the day to participate in Seminary. Non-LDS students and LDS students who don't want to attend Seminary simply choose a different elective class to attend instead.

You have every right to your opinion on Mormonism, but you lose a lot of credibility when you just start making up facts as you go along.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:26 PM
 
Location: You Ta Zhou
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^^^I still can't rep you, but thanks for answering more thoroughly than me!
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Yet one more poll that takes the concept of extrapolation into the surreal. At the very bottom, in small gray letters, one finds the key information buried: the poll consisted of questions put to 1,000 adults. That's one thousand in a nation of close to 300 million. You can talk about the theory of extrapolating poll questions until your tongue falls out, but you cannot seriously believe that one thousand people actually represents what nearly 300 million think.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The LDS church conducts seminary classes off campus in a separate privately owned building with instructors whose salaries are paid by the LDS church.
That "privately owned building" is no doubt leased public land which the Utah state government leased for a song. What do you want to bet the politically connected cult got a sweetheart deal which amounted to nothing more then a subsidy from the government to a private religious group?
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:52 PM
 
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That "privately owned building" is no doubt leased public land which the Utah state government leased for a song. What do you want to bet the politically connected cult got a sweetheart deal which amounted to nothing more then a subsidy from the government to a private religious group?
What do you want to bet that you don't have any facts to back up your assertions?
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:52 PM
 
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65% approve of school prayer?

Guess that's no surprise. A large percentage of American eat at McDonald's and watch Fox News. Americans aren't exactly known for their wisdom and intellect.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That "privately owned building" is no doubt leased public land which the Utah state government leased for a song. What do you want to bet the politically connected cult got a sweetheart deal which amounted to nothing more then a subsidy from the government to a private religious group?
In my town in Colorado, seminary is conducted at the Mormon church. The church owns the building. I'm no Mormon, but good grief, cut the Mormon bashing. They are no more of a cult than any other religion.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:25 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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65% of Americans Favor Prayer in Public Schools - Rasmussen Reports™

How do you feel about public school prayers? As most of you know, school prayers were declared unconstitutional back in 1962 and there have been attempts to bring it back. I honestly would support bringing it back.

Bringing it back? For whom exactly will this PRAYING in school be for?

The evangelicals?
The Catholics?
The Muslims?
The Buddhists?
The Huindus?
The Moonies?
The Mormons?

The Agnostics and the Atheists will be doing WHAT exactly while the rest of the class prays/chants/bows for 20 minutes???
You do realize there IS prayer in school currently. It is called SILENT PRAYER and people do it ALL the time. What gives you the right to blather on out loud during public taxpayers EDUCATION time?

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

  1. Christianity: 2.1 billion
  2. Islam: 1.5 billion
  3. Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
  4. Hinduism: 900 million
  5. Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
  6. Buddhism: 376 million
  7. primal-indigenous: 300 million
  8. African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
  9. Sikhism: 23 million
  10. Juche: 19 million
  11. Spiritism: 15 million
  12. Judaism: 14 million
  13. Baha'i: 7 million
  14. Jainism: 4.2 million
  15. Shinto: 4 million
  16. Cao Dai: 4 million
  17. Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
  18. Tenrikyo: 2 million
  19. Neo-Paganism: 1 million
  20. Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
  21. Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
  22. Scientology: 500 thousand
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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People can pray whenever they want. They can go to church and pray in groups.

But our government, being based on freedom of religion, has NO place supporting or encouraging "praying" to any supernatural entity in a taxpayer-supported educational institution. Any time you start praying in schools, you are by necessity adopting the Judeo-Christian religion and rituals, and while you are free to choose this religion, you should NOT be forced into it.



There should be no prayers led by teachers or the school in any public school.

I have enough problem with the Pledge of Allegiance and the whole "under God" part. Which God? Whose God? It seems some students are being left out and they are forced to follow something they may not believe in.(So we are encouraging lying)

I also have problems when our Presidents say God Bless after a speech. It is wrong. We are supposed to have separation of church and state.

Teach whatever religion you want to but leave it to the home, the churches, and private prayers. It should not be made public and mandatory for all to have to listen to when some don't feel the same way.

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