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Old 02-28-2011, 06:15 AM
 
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At no time in the history of this nation has homosexuality been so accepted, even celebrated. But I suspect (but have no empirical evidence to back this up) that the incidence of teen suicides among homosexuals is higher than it's ever been. Given the weakening hold of Christian belief on the issue of homosexuality on public opinion one would expect the reverse would be true. It is unlikely, therefore, that teens are killing themselves because of Christian beliefs. More likely it is the lifestyle itself tht is killing them.
The acceptance of homosexuality in the United States varies a great deal on a regional basis. Homosexuality is NOT accepted in Salt Lake, City Utah the same way it's excepted in San Francisco, California.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:19 AM
 
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Making millions of dollars off of Jesus' name is a sin.
Pimpin Christians ain't easy but it pays damn good.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:23 AM
 
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Why is it that every time a person disagrees with the gay lifestyle we are automatically labeled as bigots or homophobic? Is that the liberal excuse for every time as person disagrees with them?
Because along with that disagreement comes denial of a person's civil and human rights based on their sexual orientation.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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At no time in the history of this nation has homosexuality been so accepted, even celebrated. But I suspect (but have no empirical evidence to back this up) that the incidence of teen suicides among homosexuals is higher than it's ever been. Given the weakening hold of Christian belief on the issue of homosexuality on public opinion one would expect the reverse would be true. It is unlikely, therefore, that teens are killing themselves because of Christian beliefs. More likely it is the lifestyle itself tht is killing them.
What "lifestyle", exactly, is killing them, in your opinion? Simply having a same-sex relationship doesn't kill anyone. You do realize that, I hope.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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I'm not nearly as intelligent as you claim to be so perhaps you can explain step-by-step and in ultra-simple language how acceptance of gay marriage will "insure [sic] the extinction of a culture".

I'm especially interested in why legalizing gay marriage will ensure extinction, but actual homosexual behavior appears to not have that same effect.

I'd also like you to use your superior intellect to explain to me what factors make our culture dependent on only male-female marriages while other cultures have thrived while allowing polygamous and homosexual marriages and other cultures have survived while having no marriages at all.

Okay, let's go slow- just for you.

We have two possibilites regarding the origins of homosexual behavior-

1. It is learned
2. It is genetically based and cannot be either fostered or prevented

If we assume possibility #2, then the sanctioning and support of gay marriage will have little impact on the "fitness" of a given culture or species. If there is a genetic predisposition one way or another, there is little that can be done to change that behavior and bring that individual into the collective gene pool.

If we assume #1 is true, then the support and promotion of gay marriage is a process by which, through new cultural norms, we are removing otherwise "fit" individuals from the collective gene pool, limiting our available genetic diversity. If homosexuality is learned, and not genetic, such an endorsement of institutional gay marriage would necessarily make that practice, and homosexuality in general, more widespread and acceptable in the general population. As an example, there were few bi-racial children in the US prior to the late 20th century, as this cultural "taboo" has essentially been removed from US culture. This issue, in contrast to gay marriage, actually increases our genetic diversity and makes us more "fit" from a Darwnian standpoint.


I have already given you all the answers to refute my arguments. You should use them, as they are better, well thought out responses.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Hawkeye must not be as smart as s/he claims to be, since s/he completely ignored my rebuttal of his/her asinine last post towards me.... Nevermind the horrible arguments being made for his/her side of the issue.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Okay, let's go slow- just for you.

We have two possibilites regarding the origins of homosexual behavior-

1. It is learned
2. It is genetically based and cannot be either fostered or prevented...

Those aren't the only options. Maybe you should go slowly for your own benefit.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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The world population is 97% heterosexual which IS the population norm. The 3% that are homosexual are a deviation from the norm in every sense of the word, and NO, homosexuality is NOT normal in every sense of that word. The homosexual doesn’t like it because it makes him sound odd and different, well too bad because that is reality. Homosexuals are different. They will always stick out like a sore thumb because they are quite literally the intentionally differently acting “odd couple”. Whether folks like it or not the mainstream is the heterosexual 97%.

All the laws, activist judges and redefinitions are never going to change the fact that not everyone is or ever will be as thrilled and excited about homosexuality as homosexuals are and there’s nothing they or anybody can do about it and this infuriates the unhappy and frustrated homosexual radicals to no end.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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I think Darwin would say to be careful of what environment you raise your heterosexual children in because some repeated exposure to unhealthy factors could change their sexuality.
Darwin wouldn't say anything about it, because it's stupid.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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Okay, let's go slow- just for you.

We have two possibilites regarding the origins of homosexual behavior-

1. It is learned
2. It is genetically based and cannot be either fostered or prevented

If we assume possibility #2, then the sanctioning and support of gay marriage will have little impact on the "fitness" of a given culture or species. If there is a genetic predisposition one way or another, there is little that can be done to change that behavior and bring that individual into the collective gene pool.

If we assume #1 is true, then the support and promotion of gay marriage is a process by which, through new cultural norms, we are removing otherwise "fit" individuals from the collective gene pool, limiting our available genetic diversity. If homosexuality is learned, and not genetic, such an endorsement of institutional gay marriage would necessarily make that practice, and homosexuality in general, more widespread and acceptable in the general population. As an example, there were few bi-racial children in the US prior to the late 20th century, as this cultural "taboo" has essentially been removed from US culture. This issue, in contrast to gay marriage, actually increases our genetic diversity and makes us more "fit" from a Darwnian standpoint.


I have already given you all the answers to refute my arguments. You should use them, as they are better, well thought out responses.
None of this is relevant at all to the legal issue of whether gays should be treated equally under the law.
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