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I am not found of either of them. However, the sense of American pride somehow disappeared when Obama became president. I do not see him in for a second term.
Opinion is not fact. A significant number of P&OC poster's do not think much of Obama... as a person, or as a President. AFAIK none are in positions of influence in Washington and to date none have been effective in doing anything to affect Obama's continued leadership of the country. So much for opinion. When the predictions about his chances in 2012 get posted I always offer to make it interesting. No one ever takes me up on it. What, is it against TOS to make a healthy side wager on the election?? Just asking.
Obama surrenders to the Republicans before the fight starts. I made a lot of money when Carter was President, the value of my house qaudrupled while my mortgage stayed the same, my salary tripled. I was able to put $100K into 5 year CDs at 14% interest. If it hadn't been for Carter I'd still be living paycheck to paycheck
The government was not part on the solution under Carter
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i agree with carter i just don't think the govt ought to be part of the solution. my point is that govt will always invests in the wrong thing, their investment always distorts the market, crowds out other potential solutions and nothing the govt does is ever efficient. when i look at republican opposition to wind and solar i can see the seeds which carter sowed. nobody in their right mind would be against free energy generated by the wind or sun. when you however force people to pay for it through their taxes, you get their backs up! you not only get opposition to the taxpayer paying for it, you now get opposition to the technology too
Goverrnment was the problem under that poser Pesident.
i agree with carter i just don't think the govt ought to be part of the solution. my point is that govt will always invests in the wrong thing, their investment always distorts the market, crowds out other potential solutions and nothing the govt does is ever efficient. when i look at republican opposition to wind and solar i can see the seeds which carter sowed. nobody in their right mind would be against free energy generated by the wind or sun. when you however force people to pay for it through their taxes, you get their backs up! you not only get opposition to the taxpayer paying for it, you now get opposition to the technology too
Agreed, to a point. That's why President Carter tried to get The People in on the conversation about OIL/ENERGY (fireside chats). The People need to be on board so the clumsy Gov't doesn't have to push the issue. Policy could go smoothly, with less mistakes, if The People make the right decisions once in a a while.
Agreed, to a point. That's why President Carter tried to get The People in on the conversation about OIL/ENERGY (fireside chats). The People need to be on board so the clumsy Gov't doesn't have to push the issue. Policy could go smoothly, with less mistakes, if The People make the right decisions once in a a while.
sorry ds, but that is like nice totalitarianism. ie i will try to convince you of the benefits of solar. if all efforts to convince you fail, i will force you. real choice is what the people need. the problem is that we don't ever present people with the real costs
Well I don't know if I agree as hopefully we will judge the man and not the color of his skin.
I know I certainly will not hold it against any future black candidates because of Barack just as I wouldn't hold it against any future whites becuase of Clinton.
I'll give BO his due.
He is the first black president, and that is something America has needed for a very long time.
I look forward to replacing him with a competent black president.
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