Another Bad Wisconsin Poll For Gov Walker (working, newspaper, democrat)
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So you admit the data is accurate: the WI teachers' union's insurance company is overcharging WI taxpayers $68-100 million per year for teachers' health insurance.
I cannot find the words "overcharging" or "overcharge" in the report.
EDIT: I'm speaking of Vol13no8.pdf. Is there another report? I missed it coming into the thread late, apologies if so.
"Charges more than other possible options" is not equivalent to "overcharges." If I choose Kaiser at work instead of Aetna, Kaiser will charge more. That doesn't mean they are overcharging. In addition to the reports' conclusion that the above-market-price charging may possibly be due to superior quality of coverage and service, it likewise is non-committal on its being due to an advantage at the time of contract negotiation - "an additional possible explanation." (p6)
And nobody said there would need to be evidence that teachers accepted a pay cut in order to get higher health insurance benefits. The negotiation is over how much compensation will be in salary, and how much in benefits. The bargaining agreements are about future years and at what rate compensation will increase.
I happen to think the report has some interesting things to say about competition in health insurance vs a monopoly, but you are spinning their report to your own conclusions!
Awesome!!! You've put a stake in the ground. You have made an affirmative assertion!
Now... prove it.
Wow you really are intellectually incurious aren't you? You really like to be spoon fed. Well I really had to dig, it was in the link I provided for you.
"Milton was paying $48,301 more in premiums for every month that it couldn't switch from WEA Trust to a pair of plans from Madison-based Dean Health and Janesville-based MercyCare that it said were comparable. The district already had switched its administrative staff, said Nikolay, and while the union objected that the new plans would restrict choices, most teachers already used doctors at Dean or MercyCare clinics, Nikolay noted. "That made it less problematic for a lot of our families.""
I happen to think the report has some interesting things to say about competition in health insurance vs a monopoly, but you are spinning their report to your own conclusions!
To be fair, IC is only spinning the report to reach the conclusions intended by the authors. Its greatest strength as a propaganda piece is its ability to get people like IC to believe a falsehood without ever actually being explicitly false itself.
Wow you really are intellectually incurious aren't you? You really like to be spoon fed. Well I really had to dig, it was in the link I provided for you.
"Milton was paying $48,301 more in premiums for every month that it couldn't switch from WEA Trust to a pair of plans from Madison-based Dean Health and Janesville-based MercyCare that it said were comparable. The district already had switched its administrative staff, said Nikolay, and while the union objected that the new plans would restrict choices, most teachers already used doctors at Dean or MercyCare clinics, Nikolay noted. "That made it less problematic for a lot of our families.""
They refuse to read the links provided for them. They choose to continue their self-induced ignorance.
Wow you really are intellectually incurious aren't you? You really like to be spoon fed.
Not at all.
I like to be accurate. I like to be genuinely data driven. And I long ago learned that the plural of anecdote is not data.
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Originally Posted by shorebaby
"Milton was paying $48,301 more in premiums for every month that it couldn't switch from WEA Trust to a pair of plans from Madison-based Dean Health and Janesville-based MercyCare that it said were comparable."
Okay. The District that saved the money "said" the plans "were comparable."
I like to be accurate. I like to be genuinely data driven. And I long ago learned that the plural of anecdote is not data.
Okay. The District that saved the money "said" the plans "were comparable."
So show me.
I just did. Look, you refuse to believe anything that doesn't conform to you political beliefs, that's ok. The rest of the folks reading this thread see what is going on.
Again, look into youself about the anger, it makes you irrational. Cheers!
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