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Old 04-22-2011, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Hey I do without welfare myself for the time being too

No need for a Police state, in my eyes... The Police are out of control, they could be cut back and we could stop all the SWAT team Paramiltary training from DHS....

You should agree with me that DHS and the "Patriot Act" is unconstitutional???

Fire departments could be Volunteer with no union, no need for unions to work for BIG GUV....

Roads you can give GUV but no union no bid contracts to work for "The People"....

The military is a given, but there can be no attacks on another country that's not a direct threat to US...

Meaning if your the President you go to Congress before the UN before you entangle THE USA to some BS conflict
that does nothing for US but dig the hole deeper...

Allen West is a retired Army man, Im no expert, but Id listen to him, this is a complicated subject...

Taxes are whats left, and thats HUGE I agree...

Why should anyone give more $$$ to a government that has the largest debt in the history of the world????

Demopubs and Republocrats have lead us to the brink of ruin!!!

We were outraged just like you when they gave all the $$$ to the Banks instead of letting em DIE!!!

So when people that are passionate about trying the Girl we came to the dance with (The Constitution) why not open your mind a bit???
it's annoying because none of you what the constitution is nor what it means.

I encourage you to read the constitution and then read the federalist papers which contextualizies. I think you'll soon find you're actually opposed to many of it's aspects.

first off I think you'll be surprised to find that the constitution was the death of states rights and the creation of a stronger more powerful central gov't.

but continue to say you just want to follow the constitution without knowing what it means if you want to continue to not be taken seriously
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:13 AM
 
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And he takes away the "Racists" factor when tearing Obama a new one because .. obviously, Mr West is also a Black man .. Just one with brains and love of country!
LOL! And you just put the race factor right back in....
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Better off than when?
Than before he took office.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:35 AM
 
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do you really think liberals have an agenda to destroy the usa? Really? Do you really think obama is trying to cause this country harm?
Candidate Obama promised to fundamentally transform this country if he were elected. Did he intend thereby to cause harm to the country? I don't think so. But as the saying goes 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.' Obama, like many liberals, is a utopian. They envision a nation in which everyone's basic needs are provided: everyone has a roof over his head, adequate and nutritious food, adequate health care, a good education, a good job, etc. And they see the purpose of government to provide those things. That is what he meant by the "social compact" that he spoke about at George Washington University last week.

That may be a fine ideal but that is not the social compact embodied in the Constitution of the U.S. And Obama knows that because in a radio interview in 2002 0r 2003 he specifically cited the failure of the Constitution to embody this liberal vision as one of its flaws. In fact the Constitution only promises its citizens equality before the law, including equal opportunity to pursue one's hopes and dreams and to make one's way in the world.

So Obama is being deliberately misleading when he mischaracterizes the American social compact. And rather than protecting and defending the Constitution, as he took an oath to do, he is subverting it in his quest to "fundamentally transform" America. But in his, and many liberals' way of thinking, the end justifies the means.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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do you really think liberals have an agenda to destroy the usa? Really? Do you really think obama is trying to cause this country harm?
YES
Not the kool aid drinking little people that vote for liberals , the powerful progressive / liberals .
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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YES
Not the kool aid drinking little people that vote for liberals , the powerful progressive / liberals .
they are really trying to destroy this country? they are working within the system and trying to bring this country down? you believe this? and you accuse me of drink kool aid? yea oooooooook
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Candidate Obama promised to fundamentally transform this country if he were elected. Did he intend thereby to cause harm to the country? I don't think so. But as the saying goes 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.' Obama, like many liberals, is a utopian. They envision a nation in which everyone's basic needs are provided: everyone has a roof over his head, adequate and nutritious food, adequate health care, a good education, a good job, etc. And they see the purpose of government to provide those things. That is what he meant by the "social compact" that he spoke about at George Washington University last week.

That may be a fine ideal but that is not the social compact embodied in the Constitution of the U.S. And Obama knows that because in a radio interview in 2002 0r 2003 he specifically cited the failure of the Constitution to embody this liberal vision as one of its flaws. In fact the Constitution only promises its citizens equality before the law, including equal opportunity to pursue one's hopes and dreams and to make one's way in the world.

So Obama is being deliberately misleading when he mischaracterizes the American social compact. And rather than protecting and defending the Constitution, as he took an oath to do, he is subverting it in his quest to "fundamentally transform" America. But in his, and many liberals' way of thinking, the end justifies the means.
at least you don't think obama is trying to destroy this country. you just think he's going to do so through good intentions. i disagree and think that's actually true of what conservatives are doing in this country.

but at least with both of us not thinking that the other is evil and actively trying to destroy this country we can be civil.

it seems like so many on the right really think the left are unamerican and trying to destroy this country and it's just so absurd. we live here. why would we want to destroy our own country? we're doing what WE think is right. you disagree. that's what it's about it. i don't think any side is evil. i think some of the people at the top of the republican party have their own interests and the interests of their huge fortunes ahead of the interests of this country... be i think that even they think what they're doing is good for this county... i just obviously think they're wrong.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:45 AM
 
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they are really trying to destroy this country? they are working within the system and trying to bring this country down? you believe this? and you accuse me of drink kool aid? yea oooooooook
So , after 2 1/2 years what has he done that is helping NOW ? Not projects that will help at sometime. Just one good thing that is clearly making the country better .
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:50 AM
 
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In case you missed it .. Mr West spares No Words when it comes to the "Pretender In Chief"


YouTube - Allen West rips into President Obama on Greta Van Susteren 4-21-2011

Allen West is way out ahead of the rest in the "manliness" department for sure. Says what he means, and means what he says. Agree with most of what he does say. Maybe he can make us proud again to be American. I don't care if he is purple, I will vote for him if he runs. "Low level socialist agitator", can't get a better description than that for The Imposter!
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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So , after 2 1/2 years what has he done that is helping NOW ? Not projects that will help at sometime. Just one good thing that is clearly making the country better .
haha that's not what you just said. i think he's doing a fine job, you think he's doing a bad job and doing nothing to help us now.

HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO HIM TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA?????

even if he really is doing a bad job. does that really mean that he and other liberals are trying to destroy this nation?

haha you guys are just ridiculous!
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