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Old 06-20-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Depends on the level of government of course...

Federal, do:

1. Social Security
2. Oil, energy, and other limited commodity nationalization
3. DOT/FHWA/Macro mass transit
4. Renegotiation and limitation of free trade agreements
5. Student Loans and College/University Education subsidization

Federal, ban:

1. Tax corporations based on national footprint size (i.e. favor small businesses and regional companies over national companies).
2. Stop doing business with defense contractors with the exception of new ships, planes, missiles, and satellites.
3. Tax corporations that have or fund overseas jobs that could be done by Americans at a level that makes it cost prohibitive to do business as long as unemployment is above 5% through raising tariffs.
4. Restrict the takeover of smaller companies by multinational corporations.
5. Ban the fiat status of the dollar, gradually reintroduce it being backed by a commodity standard (after removing commodity speculation), and nationalize the federal reserve into a true central bank.


States can do the following, btw:

1. Focus on healthcare, including universal single-payers.
2. Focus on education by making school districts obsolete and introducing state funding requirements per pupil.
3. Micro mass transit and state highway systems.
4. State senior living facilities and programs.
5. Welfare, unemployment, and other poverty/homeless assistance programs.
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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Lets focus on Federal Government programs and don't list things constitutionally mandated like defense.

What are your big 5 programs you must have and what 5 things to you want to stop or things you want to ban?
Like

regulate interstate commerce
provide for national defense
enforce immigration laws
maintain interstate highway system
conduct an orchestrated national energy program


Ban-

social security
medicaid
welfare
federal funding of education
any federal funding of any project that does not involve items #1-5 from above
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Lets focus on Federal Government programs and don't list things constitutionally mandated like defense.
Nothing that isn't Constitutionally mandated.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Lets focus on Federal Government programs and don't list things constitutionally mandated like defense.

What are your big 5 programs you must have and what 5 things to you want to stop or things you want to ban?
Things I want the Federal Government to do?
See Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution... enumerated powers

Things I don't want?
Pretty much everything else
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:48 PM
 
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There is interest like self interest. being a student, of course you like student loans.

Why should my money help you go to school?
You understand the concept of what a "loan" is, right?
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hilgi View Post
Lets focus on Federal Government programs and don't list things constitutionally mandated like defense.

What are your big 5 programs you must have and what 5 things to you want to stop or things you want to ban?
Must Have:

Universal Healthcare
Legalized and Regulated Drugs
Banking Reform
Fix Public Education
Stop Illegal Immigration

Scrap:

Subsidies for profitable industries
Too Big to Fail
Military being used as World Police
Deficit Spending
Current Welfare System (in favor of a "work for pay" type system)
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Depends on the level of government of course...
I don't agree with your list, but I don't wager that I'd change your mind at all. I'll agree to disagree. Instead, I'm curious:

Do you think that there should be a document which dictates what government is and is not allowed to do? For example, if the Federal government decided to confiscate and nationalize all private homes and relocate people to their optimal place of employment, do you think that they should have the power to do that? Should they be able to change voting laws on the fly? Should they be able to arrest criminals without trial if they deem it necessary? What would stop them from doing these things?

Edit: I do agree with you about a commodity-backed currency. Actually, I just think that the US should eliminate legal tender laws and capital gains taxes so that people can trade in whatever medium of exchange that they wish to.

Last edited by flash3780; 06-20-2011 at 01:08 PM..
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Start by banning 'America-as-world-cop', good things will follow.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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You understand the concept of what a "loan" is, right?
The go get the loan from a bank...NOT a government funded program.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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There should be no federal government programs that aren't constitutionally mandated like defense.

Give rights back to the states where they belong.
Exactly. I will just add, we need common sense defense -
not perpetual wars/conflicts of choice. Doesn't give
Congress the right to spend like drunken sailors
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