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View Poll Results: If a man who identifies himself as "heterosexual" rapes another man is he really a homosex
yes 95 57.93%
no 69 42.07%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-27-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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I really dont know. I mean..I guess we truly have to understand what goes on in the mind of a rapist. Some good points on both sides in this thread. I just don't believe this issue is totally black & white.

Sure, it seems weird for a man to pop a boner and start putting it in another man. Maybe I'm not awesome, but I usually can't pop 'em unless I'm horned up! (Or for some reason, I'm at work and I'm attacked by one of those random boners. Why do they do this?).. so, it's easy to see this as 1 man wanting to bone another man.. thus a rape happens.

On the other hand, I do believe that rape (at least a good portion of it) IS about power and control and humiliation. Most men's sexuality is their biggest weakness when it's attacked. Because of this, having another man violate you and/or have you do things to him would really make you feel shame and/or feel secure with your masculinity.

But then there could be hundreds, maybe THOUSANDS of variations to this.

I'm very in the middle on this one. I can see this going both ways -- LIKE A BI SEXUAL (ZING)
But seriously, I think this is very case by case rather than a grouping of everyone.
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Old 05-27-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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We should ask Bill Maher.
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Old 05-27-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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Just to note that I'm not implying anything with the comparison. I support gays fully. But, as a hetero man, I cannot imagine raping another man. It would be a physical impossibility as the mere thought would make 'it' limp. I realize that rapists can get excited by the power/violence aspect, but the homo aspect would be enough to kill any rigidity if they are indeed 100% hetero.
And I think this is where we all lose it.

Rapists are crazy and awful. I'm really glad for you that you can't fathom all of this happening for you. That's because I'm going to assume you are a very normal person.

I have a hard time understanding how people can get a sexual thrill out of watching someone else suffer, be tortured, and beg and cry. But the fact is they do and, while the act is a sex act, it is not sexual at all. Personally, I cannot understand it in my mind but I do accept it.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:14 PM
 
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Default is a man who rapes another man gay?

I would have to say if he picks a man to rape he made a choice to where he wanted to put his unit, yup he's a Homosexual or at least a Homosexual want to be.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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I would have to say if he picks a man to rape he made a choice to where he wanted to put his unit, yup he's a Homosexual or at least a Homosexual want to be.
What if he would have picked a woman if available but didn't have the option - like prison or the military? Are you going to tell me all 50,000 per year military male on male rapes were among gays? Statistically impossible. Your argument is ridiculous.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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What if he would have picked a woman if available but didn't have the option - like prison or the military? Are you going to tell me all 50,000 per year military male on male rapes were among gays? Statistically impossible. Your argument is ridiculous.
Heres the topic of the thread "is a man who rapes another man gay? " it doesn't say anything about prison or the military but if a man sticks his unit in another mans rear he's a Homosexual whether he believes it or not, he may deny it and use excuses but it doesn't change the facts that he picked a man to rape and it may be a punk down power thing but it involves a homosexual sex act. He wanted to rape a man and he was pleasured by it.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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Heres the topic of the thread "is a man who rapes another man gay? " it doesn't say anything about prison or the military but if a man sticks his unit in another mans rear he's a Homosexual whether he believes it or not, he may deny it and use excuses but it doesn't change the facts that he picked a man to rape and it may be a punk down power thing but it involves a homosexual sex act. He wanted to rape a man and he was pleasured by it.
Except, rape of men outside places like prison or the military is quite uncommon (or extremely underreported), meaning this entire argument applies to very few people. Over 90% of rapes are against women in the general population.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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Except, rape of men outside places like prison or the military is quite uncommon (or extremely underreported), meaning this entire argument applies to very few people. Over 90% of rapes are against women in the general population.
It's just a thread, just something to talk about and pass the time.
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Old 05-27-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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Ok, I can't even get it going for a fat chick. Please explain to me how someone "gets it up" without the new modern drugs for some stinky guys fat butt? Really? They may not identify as being gay but oh brother, that is so gay. If you get aroused by dude's butt you are wayyyyy gay. Not that it's a bad thing. Even if they ran in the other room to watch some porn it would switch off like a light unless of course, that turns you on.
Just shows you are probably not a rapist. Rapists get sexually aroused by the power and control over another person, not what their victims look like.

Ever watched the movie Deliverance?
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:19 AM
 
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Heres the topic of the thread "is a man who rapes another man gay? " it doesn't say anything about prison or the military but if a man sticks his unit in another mans rear he's a Homosexual whether he believes it or not, he may deny it and use excuses but it doesn't change the facts that he picked a man to rape and it may be a punk down power thing but it involves a homosexual sex act. He wanted to rape a man and he was pleasured by it.
When there are only men around to have sex with, it's not a choice. In same-sex environments like jail and the barracks, people who are normally heterosexual often turn to homosexual behavior because there are simply no people of the opposite sex around. They're dying to get laid but there are no members of their preferred sex around so they go for the next best thing. Would you still consider people in that situation homosexual, especially if before/after their jail sentence or service time they engaged in exclusively heterosexual behavior?
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