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View Poll Results: Do you support reparations?
Yes 27 9.57%
No 255 90.43%
Voters: 282. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-22-2011, 05:14 PM
 
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At the time, slaves were considered PROPERTY. Should I pay reparations to my car if I fail to change the oil?
I voted no, but this line of logic is disgusting.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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One poster has a good idea, give the descendants of slaves a $1,000.00 tax credit..

Coupled with another post about the descendants of slaves compensating all families who lost a family member fighting for the slaves freedom. let's say $1,000.00 per loss of life.

Done deal....

Now we can forget about this issue permanently
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nep321 View Post
Here we are 150 years after the days of slavery. Black Americans are still living substandard lives. Dennis Kucinich supported reparations for black Americans.

For those who don't know what reparations are, here is the Webster Dictionary definition:

reparations
1. The making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.

So, Kucinich believes that federal tax dollars should be distributed to black Americans, to relieve them of the disadvantaged position that they continue to live in today, compared to the averae American.

Do you support reparations?

Give me back California and you can have all the reparations you want.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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How many threads and polls have we had on reparations?

NO! Reparations have been paid through social entitlement programs and redistribution of wealth now for 80+ years. That is more than enough. Time to stop all social entitlements for those whom have not paid into the system.

nuff said!
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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No.

Never before in the history of human kind has so much been given to so few who have done nothing with it.

Let's face it, the black community has had ALL of the advantages for the last 4 decades.

What have they done with the advantage?

Remember the Philadelphia philanthropist who took 125 "underprivileged" black 1st graders under his wing? He promised them 100% tuition for life.

The result? 2 graduated with 4 year degrees. 2 graduated with 2 year degrees.

Most dropped out, went to prison, became unwed welfare moms.

Money is NEVER the answer.
4 decades is not a lot of time. Let's also remember that racism still exists.

Did you know that a Black person with the same qualifications as a White person working at the same job, will on average make less than his White counterpart?

Did you know that unemployment for Blacks with a bachelor's degree is double that of unemployment for Whites with bachelor's degree?

Did you know that Blacks with a Master's degree make less on average than their White counterparts?

Did you know that Blacks with the same financial standing as Whites were offered subprime mortgages at a higher rate?

Did you know that Blacks that are convicted of the same crime as a White person are more likely to have a harsher punishment?

Did you know that Black students are more likely to in worse trouble for doing the same thing as their White counterparts in elementary school?

Did you know that you're less likely to be interviewed for a job with a Black sounding name than a White sounding name...with the same qualifications?

Did you know that a Black person is more likely to be pulled over than a White person?

Did you know that a Black person has a higher risk of police violence than a White person for the same crime?

Did you know that Blacks have a higher foreclosure rate per capita?

It will take a lot longer than four decades to reverse slavery and segregation, especially at how we approach the subject.

However, the good news is that those that benefited by the large expansion of the middle class in the 1960s-1970s and again in the 1990s are doing okay. Though they may make less and have a higher unemployment rate, those that made it past that strata no longer deal with the racism that exists. Those in the top 10% of earners essentially are set. What is thus occurring is a wealth gap within the Black community...that part is not really good news.

Money is only part of the answer. Money enables power allows for greater organization and mobilization. Without money, the means to change things does not exist. However good policies are the other component.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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American welfare recipients are rich compared to the hundreds of millions of people in the world who get by on less than $100.00 per year.

American welfare is not supposed to cover the cost of cars, a crack fix/coke hit/joint every day and an HD-TV and PS3/XBOX 360/Wii in every home.

And they're broke compared to the average American, thus why there's a relative poverty line.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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How many threads and polls have we had on reparations?

NO! Reparations have been paid through social entitlement programs and redistribution of wealth now for 80+ years. That is more than enough. Time to stop all social entitlements for those whom have not paid into the system.

nuff said!
What? So you mean to tell me that 80 years ago we had social entitlement programs that benefited African Americans to such a degree that disparities lessened? huh...
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I voted no, but this line of logic is disgusting.
Not really. Women were wed at the age of 13 back then, should their descendants be responsible for statutory rape? It's just the way the world worked back then.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:33 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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How many threads and polls have we had on reparations?

NO! Reparations have been paid through social entitlement programs and redistribution of wealth now for 80+ years. That is more than enough. Time to stop all social entitlements for those whom have not paid into the system.

nuff said!

What social "entitlement" programs would you be thinking of? The same programs that lead to many solidly middle class black neighborhoods in cities across the country being bulldozed - businesses included - and replaced with public housing projects that were seldom maintained, located in the outskirts of town and had little to no access to jobs or amenities? That's some reparations alright.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Not really. Women were wed at the age of 13 back then, should their descendants be responsible for statutory rape? It's just the way the world worked back then.
I'm stating that comparing the mistreatment of people to a car is disgusting.

I voted no since its a divisive policy that would not be effective. He voted no since he believes mistreatment of "property" does not warrant reparations. Big difference.
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