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Ratings (on anything) should be merely a suggestion so parents understand what they are buying. I'm not exactly sure how I feel (especially as a gamer) with laws in regards to who can buy what games. I grew up back when Mortal Kombat made everyone angry at how gorey it was, LOL, but we grew up just fine. That's because my parents did this weird thing like, talking to us, and explained that ripping someone's head off is not polite.
Parents need to educate themselves on individual games, to be honest. You can have 2 "M" rated games, but they are entirely different as to why they are rated M. One you as parent may be totally against (lots of sex and drug use), but the other you may be OK with (senseless, but entertaining violence)
I guess I never gave it much thought. My parents were parents to me, so I never had to worry about these things. *shrugs*
It's not that hard to get educated on video games.
The ESRB makes it clear what kind of content is in each video game.
You can take a 3 year old to see a R rated movie, there is no national standard for not letting children see violence.
I let my son watch R rated movies and play Mortal Kombat with me. But I did the same stuff growing up, I feel fine. He'll be exposed to it sooner or later. I do not let my son watch sex or nudity though.
What you do with your son is honestly none of my business. But the key is that you are doing these things WITH him. You state that you don't let your son watch any sex or nudity....how would you feel if he got a hold of the next great video game that is just a mere programming line from being digital porn?
Would you be upset knowing that he was able to walk over to blockbuster and rent it no questions asked?
Focus shifted from violent music to violent video games around the age of DOOM/Mortal Kombat.
It's hilairous, really, to see cavemen jump from media format to media format, blaming the media formats for their issues rather than looking to the actual issues.
Books to radios, radios to movies, then to movies and music, and then a shift to blame video games, which did lull in the light of more violent tv shows, and now in the wake of Duke Nukem Forever and MK9, a huge shift back to video games.
Seriously, if the media was to blame for all these violent outbreaks, there'd be alot less people alive nowadays.
Social conservatives love blaming everyone but themselves for societal ills. If their child grows up and becomes a mass murderer, it's not their fault, it's hollywood's.
If parents didn't have to work so hard to make ends meet maybe they wouldn't have to sit there and entertain their kids with video games, movies, facebook and cell phones. There was a time when dad could be guaranteed to make enough money so that mom could stay home and raise the kids, he would be guaranteed to get off at 5 giving him enough time to go home and play catch with his son and teach him about life. He could be guaranteed a good pension, retirement at 55 etc. But those things are gone. Destroyed by globalization and a corporate model based on greed and wealth flowing into the hands of a few. See corporate America doesn't care about the community or the greater good. Having a father that takes the time away from work to raise his kids right is a benefit to all of society and to US communities. When you're a global corporation you don't care about crap like that. You'll just go hire some goomba in India that is happy to work like a dog for $35K a year. But you can bet your lilly white ass that the CEO at the top has plenty of time, energy and money to play ball with his kid. The rich wealthy elite are destroying the middle class all the while selling us this line of bull**** that we are lost without them. that they provide all the jobs and spend all this so called money and wealth into the economy. LMAO! American middle class isa bunch of idiots. They all think one day if they just keep their head down, do their job, and dont make waves they might be invited into the club or get ahead. LMAO! Like Lemmings they follow each other off the cliff or worse trample over each other trying to jump off.
You don't seem to know that the Columbine shooters played violent video games religiously.
As for the rest of your post, I won't even justify it with attention.
Apparently you never learned the difference between correlation and causation.
Correlation
mutual relation of two or more things, parts, etc.
Causation
the act of causing or producing.
Just because something happens to share characteristics A and B does not mean that characteristic A causes characteristic B or vice versa.
It's the difference between having a magic stone which prevents tiger attacks, and having a normal rock while there are no tigers around to attack you.
I could make a more solid case for how food makes people violent. I mean, I'm pretty certain that you could trace back every violent person in history and point out that at some point in their life, they ate food, while one of the most well-known avatars of peace (Gandhi) was obviously not well-fed. On the other hand, Modern Warfare 2 sold over 20 million and I'm pretty sure there haven't been 20 million murderers spawned from it.
As someone who's been playing violent video games for 20 years, and has yet to murder anybody, I think it's pretty safe to say that violent video games do not CAUSE violent behaviour.
Blaming violent video games as the cause is tunnel vision at its most obvious. You ignore any other possible factors, such as the fact that they were bullied often (and, on the same page, that they were diagnosed to be psychotic and clinically depressed) just to blame something which makes no sense. Maybe when you can point out to me a well-adjusted, perfectly sane person with a perfect life and no prior reason to be pissed off at anybody, and who suddenly played a violent video game then started shooting people, you might have a case.
Until then, I think I'm gonna stick with "Food is the root of all evil" because it's got more evidence backing it than violent video games.
Comparing the original DOOM games to games made today is like comparing Steamboat Willy to Cars 2.
Advancements in technology have made video games uber realistic.
However, Doom and Wolfenstein 3D were apparently the ones they played, and one of them apparently made a bunch of Doom maps and was working on a mod of Doom.
Comparing the original DOOM games to games made today is like comparing Steamboat Willy to Cars 2.
Advancements in technology have made video games uber realistic.
I fear you missed the context of the Doom comment. Poster A brings up Columbine (an early example of people trying to play games because those involved played a modified version go Doom) as an argument about the affects of violent games. Poster B then points out the sheer volume of sold copies of doom and the fact that there are not correlating numbers of violent crimes related to the games purchase and use.
First off the entire Doom bit even being brought up by people regarding columbine is a scape goat ploy. It was never shown that the game even modded as it was was the cause... meaning it is and always has been an instance of False Cause Fallacy in an attempt to shift blame by an anecdotal correlation rather than any form of causation.
I believe that was the point Phantasy Tokoro was trying to make more or less.
However, Doom and Wolfenstein 3D were apparently the ones they played, and one of them apparently made a bunch of Doom maps and was working on a mod of Doom.
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Originally Posted by Dampylle
I fear you missed the context of the Doom comment. Poster A brings up Columbine (an early example of people trying to play games because those involved played a modified version go Doom) as an argument about the affects of violent games. Poster B then points out the sheer volume of sold copies of doom and the fact that there are not correlating numbers of violent crimes related to the games purchase and use.
First off the entire Doom bit even being brought up by people regarding columbine is a scape goat ploy. It was never shown that the game even modded as it was was the cause... meaning it is and always has been an instance of False Cause Fallacy in an attempt to shift blame by an anecdotal correlation rather than any form of causation.
I believe that was the point Phantasy Tokoro was trying to make more or less.
If parents didn't have to work so hard to make ends meet maybe they wouldn't have to sit there and entertain their kids with video games, movies, facebook and cell phones. There was a time when dad could be guaranteed to make enough money so that mom could stay home and raise the kids, he would be guaranteed to get off at 5 giving him enough time to go home and play catch with his son and teach him about life. He could be guaranteed a good pension, retirement at 55 etc. But those things are gone. Destroyed by globalization and a corporate model based on greed and wealth flowing into the hands of a few. See corporate America doesn't care about the community or the greater good. Having a father that takes the time away from work to raise his kids right is a benefit to all of society and to US communities. When you're a global corporation you don't care about crap like that. You'll just go hire some goomba in India that is happy to work like a dog for $35K a year. But you can bet your lilly white ass that the CEO at the top has plenty of time, energy and money to play ball with his kid. The rich wealthy elite are destroying the middle class all the while selling us this line of bull**** that we are lost without them. that they provide all the jobs and spend all this so called money and wealth into the economy. LMAO! American middle class isa bunch of idiots. They all think one day if they just keep their head down, do their job, and dont make waves they might be invited into the club or get ahead. LMAO! Like Lemmings they follow each other off the cliff or worse trample over each other trying to jump off.
This doesn't really have anything to do with my original point.....
And for the record both of my parents worked when I was growing up...but instead of sitting inside and playing nintendo or watching TV I got on my BMX bike and played with the other neighborhood kids until dark.
Now...BACK to the topic...
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