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Old 07-12-2011, 03:36 PM
 
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>Aggravated

Okay.

Now prove the aggravated part.
It has to do with taking the time to understand the meaning of these laws which the jury did not do.


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..."the killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification..., is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree." This is the definition currently used in Florida based on a decision of the Florida Supreme Court.

There has been quite a bit of discussion of how to differentiate manslaughter from first and second degree murder, but what it comes down to is this: if something you do causes someone else to die, if something you get someone else to do causes someone to die, or if you do something stupid (or fail to do something smart) that common sense would tell you would create dangerous situation and could cause someone to die and someone does die, you have committed manslaughter.
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procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree
The difficulty comes with the fact that juries are often confused as to the difference between first degree murder (premeditation), second degree murder (evil intent) and manslaughter (intent to cause death). The key is that manslaughter is death to another due to reckless disregard of human life. A person may not have intended anyone to die but they didn’t care if they caused a situation where someone might die, and someone did in fact die.
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(premeditation), second degree murder (evil intent) and manslaughter (intent to cause death).
In order to convict someone of manslaughter by intentional act, it is not necessary for the State to prove that the defendant had a premeditated intent to cause death. A conviction for manslaughter by act does not require an intent to kill but only an intentional act that causes the death of the victim.

Manslaughter means that someone does something on purpose that could cause someone to die without thinking of that possibility and someone dies.
http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d...324_Report.pdf

When a two year old is not supervised adequately at a home with a swimming pool and Casey does not call 9/11 in attempt to seek medical help, that is manslaughter. Aggravated is a legal term only- not a description per say.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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It has to do with taking the time to understand the meaning of these laws which the jury did not do.



http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d...324_Report.pdf

When a two year old is not supervised adequately at a home with a swimming pool and Casey does not call 9/11 in attempt to seek medical help, that is manslaughter. Aggravated is a legal term only- not a description per say.
Perhaps it is time for us to stop wasting our energy. It is quite obvious that the Casey Anthony jurors represent the same mental density as some people that post on CD.

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Old 07-12-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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It was "an admission" by the defendant made via her attorney with her consent in a court of law. What more do you need!
Some reasonable proof. There is none still.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: NC
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We all know a jury can acquit for whatever reason they want.

In this case, juror 3 wanted to know Exactly when and where the chloroform and duct tape were used: was it in the back seat of the car, the trunk, a public place. Ridiculous.

She couldn't exclude the "possibility" that it was an accident. Does the state now have to exclude the 'possibility' of an alternative for which there is absolutely No Evidence ?

She said if they charged Casey with other other than 1st degree murder they "probably could have gotten a guilty verdict, absolutely." What !?!?!? Did she already forget the many other charges ?

She wanted the state to 'connect the dots.' She has every right to feel that way; I believe a juror's role is to connect the dots.

Your sole points seem to be that juries can do whatever they want and the public should shut up. What, if anything, am I missing ?
My points are
1. Juries can do almost whatever they want in examining evidence and acquitting. Your opinion on it really doesn't matter, you can yell and scream all you want, and I really don't care if you do that or shut up, but that won't change anything.
2. As far as juries go this one did not strike me as unusually unreasonable.
3. Professional juries would just defeat the purpose of even having a jury in the first place.

I hope that helps
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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It has to do with taking the time to understand the meaning of these laws which the jury did not do.



http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d...324_Report.pdf

When a two year old is not supervised adequately at a home with a swimming pool and Casey does not call 9/11 in attempt to seek medical help, that is manslaughter. Aggravated is a legal term only- not a description per say.
Right, but you are basing this opinion of her defense attorney's opening statemet, which is not evidence. There is no evidence of an sort that points toward an accidental drowning. The jurors shouldn't have taken his opening statement into consideration but they have already admitted they did.

Anyway, I think the state did a great job of proving murder in the first, but the jury obviously did not want to see it or examine it.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: MI
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According to your skewed reasoning, the right wing supporters should never debate another issue concerning Obama policies...because the people spoke in 2008 and he is the POTUS. See how that works?

Because a jury of citizens came to a verdict, does not mean that other citizens cannot discuss the issue. There is a petition in the works to create a law that will make it a crime to not report a child missing...is that also something not open to discussion because the trial is over and the dirty deed is done?
Is this the Casey Anthony thread or not? Where did you come up with President Obama in here? Time for you to CHILL!

I did not read your entire post.
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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Is this the Casey Anthony thread or not? Where did you come up with President Obama in here? Time for you to CHILL!

I did not read your entire post.
I gave you an analogy. Sorry for you that you are slow on the uptake, although I am not surprised in retrospect of your previous posts.
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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Germany had Adolf Hitler
Arabia had Osama Bin Laden
North Korea has Kim Jong II
United States has Casey Anthony
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Female defense atty on Greta van Susteren tonight saying Casey needs 'compassion.' hahahaha

Greta said, well, she can't feel compassion.

Greta asked about protection for Casey when she is released. Atty in sweet voice said 'she's being taken care of.' I can hardly wait for the next chapter.

Jojahn, that explanation of manslaughter is PERFECT. Clearly, no one took the time to carefully examine and think through the definitions of the various charges.

Reporter on Geraldo the other night said his theory was Casey went shopping and left Caylee in a hot car too long. Question I have about that theory is why the duct tape? Geraldo didn't ask about that.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:47 AM
 
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Germany had Adolf Hitler
Arabia had Osama Bin Laden
North Korea has Kim Jong II
United States has Casey Anthony
"Oh, the humanity"


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