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So, you'd welcome being 1/2 mile downwind of a coal fired generating station with no emission standards or are you just another whiny NIMBY?
Is this all you have? Who is saying coal power plants should have "no emission standards"???
I'm saying our power plants just spent million of dollars on smoke stack scrubbers, and passed those costs onto the consumers. Now 0bama wants to add three new sets of regulations, which will cost millions of dollars for each power plant. These new costs will cause the price for electricity to skyrocket, and 0bama knows this, so why is he doing it NOW??
0bama: "Coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers."
This makes no sense at all!! Why force power plants to pay huge sums of money to retrofit their power plants, during a depression, if you already know it will jack up electricity rates? 0bama is a wrecking ball, and he does not care that he is destroying our economy, one regulation or mandate at a time.
Basic civics will also tell you the President is very influential on these decisions and can bring legislation to the table. The Clean air Act which we are discussing here was proposed by Bush1, the only thing Congress had to do with it was pass it.
You are mistaken. The Clean Air Act was enacted into law in 1963 by yet another Democrat controlled Congress and had absolutely nothing to do with President Bush. The act was subsequently amended in 1970, 1977 and 1990. In each case, the Democrats controlled Congress.
You are mistaken. The Clean Air Act was enacted into law in 1963 by yet another Democrat controlled Congress and had absolutely nothing to do with President Bush. The act was subsequently amended in 1970, 1977 and 1990. In each case, the Democrats controlled Congress.
We did need to regulate industry to put a halt to the air and water being literally poisoned. But the libs banned the cleanest type of electrical power generation that we have, nuclear.
The reason we have so many coal power plants is the libs banned nuclear power in many states. We could have had much cleaner air and water, and very little coal mining, but nooooooooooooooo....
BHO is the front man / stooge for the real powers that are implementing these policies, to ruin the nation.
Do you know who they are?
Who "puffed" a freshman senator from Illinois into a national candidate?
Who "spin doctored" his election?
Certainly, not him. He can't even forge his birth certificate with any success.
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No, 0bama is the problem, kicking him out of office ASAP is the solution.
0bama hates coal:"If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."
Steven Chu hates coal:"Coal is My Worst Nightmare. If coal is to stay part of the world’s energy mix, , clean-coal technologies must be developed."
And the EPA hates coal:Word is just coming down that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has vetoed the largest single mountaintop removal permit in West Virginia history.
...and they want to jack up electricity costs:The Environmental Protection Agency announced Thursday that it will regulate greenhouse gas emissions from power plants and oil refineries next year in an attempt to curb global warming.
...and then again in March of 2011:CHU: Well, the recent spike in gasoline prices following that huge spike in 2007, 2008 is a reminder to Americans that the price of gasoline over the long haul should be expected to go up just because of supply and demand issues. And so we see this in the buying habits of Americans as they make choices for the next car they buy.
Is it any wonder his EPA is pushing forward with new regulations to jack up the costs of energy, its the exact outcome they wanted. All you have to do is listen to the statements of 0bama, Chu, and et al, in his administration, who have publicly proclaimed their intentions.
Keep in mind, this is all being done during an economic depression, and this fool of a man wonders why things just keep getting worse for jobs and the economy.
BHO is the front man / stooge for the real powers that are implementing these policies, to ruin the nation.
Do you know who they are?
Who "puffed" a freshman senator from Illinois into a national candidate?
Who "spin doctored" his election?
Certainly, not him. He can't even forge his birth certificate with any success.
...you forgot to add that outside forces orchestrated his unopposed elections for the IL and US senate.
We did need to regulate industry to put a halt to the air and water being literally poisoned. But the libs banned the cleanest type of electrical power generation that we have, nuclear.
The reason we have so many coal power plants is the libs banned nuclear power in many states. We could have had much cleaner air and water, and very little coal mining, but nooooooooooooooo....
Clean huh? Tell that to the Japanese.
It wasn't government that killed nuclear power, it is corporate America (and rightly so) that unless the government indemnifies insurance companies, cannot get insurance. In addition, no board of directors wants to approve a nuclear project that has a high cost-overrun rate. A plant initially expected to cost $10 billion can end up costing $50 billion.
According to the Sierra Club "Price-Anderson caps the commercial nuclear power industry's liability at $9.1 billion and requires that reactor operators carry only $200 million in primary private insurance for each reactor. Price-Anderson would only provide pennies-on the-dollar in public compensation for damages stemming from a potential nuclear reactor accident, which Sandia National Laboratory Estimates could exceed $500 billion dollars."
You are mistaken. The Clean Air Act was enacted into law in 1963 by yet another Democrat controlled Congress and had absolutely nothing to do with President Bush. The act was subsequently amended in 1970, 1977 and 1990. In each case, the Democrats controlled Congress.
What I'm referring too is the 1990 amendment which is by far the most profound piece of environmental legislation ever passed, everything before that was small potatoes.
The following statement was issued by EPA Administrator William K. Reilly today following the President's signing of the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990:
"During his 1988 campaign, the President vowed to amend the Nation's clean air laws, saying that "every American expects and deserves to breathe clean air." The Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990, signed into law today, triumphantly fulfill that pledge. Through his leadership, the President broke the 13-year clean air stalemate by submitting an innovative, market-based bill which will achieve the nation's environmental goals in the most effective manner.
We did need to regulate industry to put a halt to the air and water being literally poisoned. But the libs banned the cleanest type of electrical power generation that we have, nuclear.
The reason we have so many coal power plants is the libs banned nuclear power in many states. We could have had much cleaner air and water, and very little coal mining, but nooooooooooooooo....
Than you'll be glad to know that Georgia Power has designs to add two nuclear reactors. That's probably as much of a reason as to why they want to shut down the coal plants as any EPA regulations. But it's more alarming to blame the EPA than to admit that they want to do more with nuclear power.
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