Poor and Middle Class Conservatives, How do you benefit by helping the wealthy?... (holidays, compare)

[clb10]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Taxes paid as a percentage of GDP is meaningless, because GDP doesnt have any bearing on profits, and we tax profits

A company can be selling billions a year, but if they are doing so at a loss, there is no taxes owed. Look at CompUSA, Borders for 2 such examples.

This is another reason why a wealth tax is a good idea.

Tax 0.10% of all wealth above $1,000,000 for individuals and $10,000,000 for corporations.

Every one (and corporation) should pay her fair share.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by clb10

Every one (and corporation) should pay her fair share.

It's easy to spot which income groups aren't paying their fair share. Look at Table 1, here:
Summary of Latest Federal IRS Income Tax Data

Compare each group's share of the income (AGI) to their share of the federal income tax they paid.

Guess which groups aren't paying their fair share. The answers may surprise you.

[Rambler123]

Originally Posted by HC475

Are the tax cuts creating jobs for you?...

Those on the far-right are generally believers in the Just World Fallacy. The summary of that is "everyone gets what they deserve in life."

Now, a child could poke holes in this viewpoint - how do people born in the projects "deserve" that fate? How do people suffering from accidents or disease deserve that fate? The list goes on and on.

However, if one looks at the world from that slanted, nutty viewpoint, everything makes sense:

1) The rich must be perfect since otherwise they wouldn't be rich... because everyone gets what they deserve in life. So, we should support them at all cost since they are better people than us - that's why they are so rich...

2) The poor, unemployed, etc. all "deserve" their fates, because everyone gets what they deserve in life. So, if you're out of work or poor, you're a lazy bum with no skills / education/ work ethic / etc. That must be the case because nobody would be out of work unless they "deserve" it.

People who follow this viewpoint have zero empathy for those less fortunate and honestly feel that they are "entirely self-made men" - again, "everyone gets what they deserve in life." They are completely unable to understand the role that luck plays in life, or how other people could work just as hard they have and yet end up with far less thanks to misfortune. Finally, those who believe in the Just World Fallacy directly relate a person's wealth with their value, which is why they will gladly - blindly - support the rich. So long as "somebody else" loses their job, it's fine... because "they deserved it" after all...

[petch751]

Originally Posted by clb10

Every one (and corporation) should pay her fair share.

Yes, everyone should pay their fair share including those who don't pay at all and those on welfare. Deduct their fair share from their welfare before they get the money like they do to everyone else.

[texdav]

Most realize that the reality is they do are not self employed and that trickle down whether by government middle man or by being employed is reality.one only has to look at GDP or government funding to easily see that. The rebel without a job can or sill they can individual sell are beating their heads against a wall. After all government knows where the funding is and its not with 40% who pay n effective taxes or the 60% of us who use more services than we pay for. Its Also why they are a worried about the trends of corporations moving off shore not just jobs now; the tax base they mean to government.

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by Rambler123

Those on the far-right are generally believers in the Just World Fallacy. The summary of that is "everyone gets what they deserve in life."

Now, a child could poke holes in this viewpoint - how do people born in the projects "deserve" that fate? How do people suffering from accidents or disease deserve that fate? The list goes on and on.

However, if one looks at the world from that slanted, nutty viewpoint, everything makes sense:

1) The rich must be perfect since otherwise they wouldn't be rich... because everyone gets what they deserve in life. So, we should support them at all cost since they are better people than us - that's why they are so rich...

2) The poor, unemployed, etc. all "deserve" their fates, because everyone gets what they deserve in life. So, if you're out of work or poor, you're a lazy bum with no skills / education/ work ethic / etc. That must be the case because nobody would be out of work unless they "deserve" it.

People who follow this viewpoint have zero empathy for those less fortunate and honestly feel that they are "entirely self-made men" - again, "everyone gets what they deserve in life." They are completely unable to understand the role that luck plays in life, or how other people could work just as hard they have and yet end up with far less thanks to misfortune. Finally, those who believe in the Just World Fallacy directly relate a person's wealth with their value, which is why they will gladly - blindly - support the rich. So long as "somebody else" loses their job, it's fine... because "they deserved it" after all...

And you suffer from the delusion that life is supposed to be fair and use that as an excuse to further the horrible idea of trying to legislate fairness.

It is not the job of Fed-Gov to play Robin Hood.

[GHOSTRIDER AZ]

Originally Posted by WestCobb

There is no such thing as a poor or middle class conservative. Conservatives who make as little as $30,000 a year are rich or soon to be rich.

Amen Brother, there is opportunity just around the corner. Conservatives earning 30Ka year are far richer than those who expect a Gov. Check,


I give our Liberal friends a clue, "Its not all about money"

Don't stress, but think about it?

[petch751]

A conservative is a liberal who has been robbed by government.

[freemkt]

Originally Posted by texdav

The Op qustion begs the question;what do anyone who pays taxes benefit from the poor who only consume and contribute no wealth to the country? He seems to be confused who is actually a liabilty and brings nothing to the game.i am surprised that progressives are not callig for eliminatig them like unwanted children really. That is their normal logic thinking'elimination of the ones who weaken the herds survival.

??? WhoTF do you think creates wealth for landlords? Rent slaves, including the working poor and the working class, who cannot buy a home and thus create wealth for themselves. The working poor also create wealth for their employers.

[freemkt]

Originally Posted by alphamale

I didn't realize that there were wealthy democrats.

Haven't you heard of "limousine liberals"?