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Old 09-05-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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The moral superiority of some of the posters on this site is amazing, isn't it?
I think it might be something more like educational superiority.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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That isn't what he said, and we know the founders didn't set up a theocracy.

However, the fact remains that this nation was founded on Christian principles. Our laws were derived from those principles, and our government was set up in accordance with Biblical principles. This is not even arguable!
Sure it is. There are 613 laws in the Bible. Only 2 of them exist in the US legal system.

How exactly then are we founded on Biblical principles when we ignore the overwhelming majority of them?
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Sure it is. There are 613 laws in the Bible. Only 2 of them exist in the US legal system.

How exactly then are we founded on Biblical principles when we ignore the overwhelming majority of them?
US law is derived from English Common Law, which in turn originated from Roman Law, which predates Christianity and the bible.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

Treaty of Tripoli, 1797
"All who have studied American history agree that there would be no self-evident truths and they would not have been so clearly set forth and have become an integral part of American culture without the Christian religion. The predominance of the Christian religion in colonial American cannot be denied." — John W. Whitehead, "An American Dream", The American Mind, p. 31

The teachings of scripture, and the ideas embodied in the Bible concerning man, and his relationship to God and to government, all played a significant roll in the establishment of our system of government, and our laws. This isn't even arguable.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: California
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"All who have studied American history agree that there would be no self-evident truths and they would not have been so clearly set forth and have become an integral part of American culture without the Christian religion. The predominance of the Christian religion in colonial American cannot be denied." — John W. Whitehead, "An American Dream", The American Mind, p. 31

The teachings of scripture, and the ideas embodied in the Bible concerning man, and his relationship to God and to government, all played a significant roll in the establishment of our system of government, and our laws. This isn't even arguable.
Don't confuse history and culture with law. It's been explained how our laws were not taken from the bible.

Cultures and traditions and heritage. That's what you are talking about. Those things are of historical significance, no doubt, but that's it. Different times, different people...things are always in flux. Since the beginning of time you know. Someday people will look back to 2011 and study the cultures and traditions of today, but that doesn't mean they have to be like us in any way.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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[quote=nononsenseguy;20747875]That isn't what he said, and we know the founders didn't set up a theocracy.

However, the fact remains that this nation was founded on Christian principles. Our laws were derived from those principles, and our government was set up in accordance with Biblical principles. This is not even arguable![/quote]
Quite the contrary.

A number of the drafters of the Constitution (Including Thomas Jefferson) were Deists, who did not believe in the Divinity of Christ.

This would make them non-Christian. English Common Law was the basis for the foundations of law in America.
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Old 09-05-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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Viking law and tradition had quite a lot to do with it, too.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Hmmmmmmmmm...let's put two and two together...

1. From Indiana
2. A tea-bagger
3. Cannot spell basic words correctly
4. Borderline retarded pattern of speech

=

REPUBLICAN
Mexican, chihuahua baby!! your very quick but very wrong. you so smart!!!!!! care to lick some tea bags!!!
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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You feel they should be deported and forced to live in some country with extremist religious views because they push their extreme religious views down the throats of everybody else????????????????
because religious extremist will push their religious views down their non believing throats or else. yea! that's what they need to experience. then and only then they will realize. in America nobody is pushing anything down their pretty little throats!!!
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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America is a desireable place but not everyone wants to come to America. That's why not everyone is in America. People immigrate all over the world. How ignorant are you exactly?
the vest majority is what I said! not everyone is only obvious, people immegrate all over the world, is only obvious, you'er so smart, its amazing!!!!
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