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I will type it yet again...I don't care what happens.
There is actually no reason that part of the middle east should be a concern,well except for Israel having nukes.
Really? Then your view is completely lost. Could you summarize? Or at least share what your view exactly is, if not the one I've been arguing against?
You haven't argued against any actual point I've made. You've posted things that fail to to into consideration the current circumstances, that are vague in their points, and tried to put a label on what I was saying.
Rather than ask you to go back and read, I'll lay it out for you clearly.
1. In itself, I have no problem with a Palestinian state.
2. The reality is that said state would not be satisfied with that and would continue fighting until Israel no longer existed - or they were defeated again.
3. Given the reality of point two, and the need for compromise, I would be okay with granting the Palestinian state if in exchange they would recognize Israel, as the international community has done.
You haven't argued against any actual point I've made. You've posted things that fail to to into consideration the current circumstances, that are vague in their points, and tried to put a label on what I was saying.
And after going a full circle, you're claiming that.
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Rather than ask you to go back and read, I'll lay it out for you clearly.
1. In itself, I have no problem with a Palestinian state.
2. The reality is that said state would not be satisfied with that and would continue fighting until Israel no longer existed - or they were defeated again.
3. Given the reality of point two, and the need for compromise, I would be okay with granting the Palestinian state if in exchange they would recognize Israel, as the international community has done.
1- Okay.
2- So, you're opposed to Palestinian state. So, you DO have a problem.
3- And how exactly do you think a Palestinian State would be formed without recognition of Israel as a state? On the whims of Hamas which has been your excuse all along to NOT support the idea?
And after going a full circle, you're claiming that.
1- Okay.
2- So, you're opposed to Palestinian state. So, you DO have a problem.
3- And how exactly do you think a Palestinian State would be formed without recognition of Israel as a state? On the whims of Hamas which has been your excuse all along to NOT support the idea?
Do you have a reading comprehension issue or a challenge with logic? I stated that I don't have a problem with the idea of Palestinians having their own state. I then pointed out the reality of what that state would be if all other things remain unchanged. Finally, I offered a resolution which would be for them to have a state in exchange for recognizing Isreal.
You asked:"how exactly do you think a Palestinian State would be formed without recognition of Israel as a state?"
Just like it exists now. The rest of world recognizes them and Hamas does not nor do they think they should exist.
Question: "On the whims of Hamas which has been your excuse all along to NOT support the idea?"
Another attempt to twist a position.
Do you have a reading comprehension issue or a challenge with logic?
Idiotic statement.
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I stated that I don't have a problem with the idea of Palestinians having their own state. I then pointed out the reality of what that state would be if all other things remain unchanged. Finally, I offered a resolution which would be for them to have a state in exchange for recognizing Isreal.
Not that I should care about why you care so much about Israel, as if your life depends on it just as much as Hamas' as an organization, but what exactly did I say on your position?
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You asked:"how exactly do you think a Palestinian State would be formed without recognition of Israel as a state?"
Just like it exists now. The rest of world recognizes them and Hamas does not nor do they think they should exist.
And I also said that your ideas revolve around Hamas' whims.
[qupte]Question: "On the whims of Hamas which has been your excuse all along to NOT support the idea?"
Another attempt to twist a position.[/quote]
Your entire position is based on Hamas' take. No spin necessary other than one you want to try.
Not that I should care about why you care so much about Israel, as if your life depends on it just as much as Hamas' as an organization, but what exactly did I say on your position?
And I also said that your ideas revolve around Hamas' whims.
[qupte]Question: "On the whims of Hamas which has been your excuse all along to NOT support the idea?"
Another attempt to twist a position.
Your entire position is based on Hamas' take. No spin necessary other than one you want to try.[/quote]
Hamas is the current government in Gaza, so why wouldn't you consider their take? They're the ones that would be negotiating in any kind of effort.
I see that you have no plans to offer an opinion of your own.
The poster in question doesn't seem to want to commit,possible because doing so would then mean their position could be used against them later on.
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