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Old 09-19-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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It will make about a zero difference...but it sounds cool right?
It will be a problem for people who do not understand math. I would include Perry in that group.
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Hey, the rich Koch Brothers started it by backing movements against the middle class---teachers, fire and police and other public service workers. If the Left is pushing back, too bad.
Nope. The public employee union crybabies declared war on the taxpaying middle class by demanding ever more lavish benefits that only they get. Stop repeatedly screwing the middle class and maybe the union blood suckers can get the middle class back on their side.
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Bay Area - Portland
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Good for Obama. It seems he finally gets it.

He is finally standing up to the republicans.

Obama Unveils Deficit Reduction Plan, 'Buffett Rule' Tax On Millionaires
If that were only the case! He always sounds great when in campaign mode, but after watching him fold like a cheap lawn chair time and time again when it came to actually negotiating a deal, I’m not yet convinced. If he ever grows a backbone his approval rating would skyrocket. As someone said recently;

Truman gave them hell
Obama gave them his lunch money
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If that were only the case! He always sounds great when in campaign mode, but after watching him fold like a cheap lawn chair time and time again when it came to actually negotiating a deal, I’m not yet convinced. If he ever grows a backbone his approval rating would skyrocket. As someone said recently;

Truman gave them hell
Obama gave them his lunch money
Don't listen to what Obama says... watch what he DOES.

Obama's big supporters are Wall Street banksters, again ...only this time, they're giving Obama even more support.
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A just-released study by the Center for Responsive Politics shows that President Obama is relying more on Wall Street to fund his re-election this year than he did in 2008, according to CNBC, which obtained an advance copy of the report.
Wall Streeters Top Obama Re-Election Supporters

Wall Street topped Obama's campaign contributors in 2008. He's looking for even more from them, now. And for all of you libs who forgot that Obama was always the Wall Street banksters' puppet from Day 1...
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The president has packed his economic team with Wall Street insiders intent on turning the bailout into an all-out giveaway
Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders | Common Dreams
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Mark Penn.

Mark Penn: Strategy Corner: Obama -- Don't Bring Back Class Warfare



As the man says, higher taxes poll well, but when it comes right down to it, the people understand that more spending, more taxation is the WRONG path.

But this has been his strategy and tactic from the start - divide people by race, class, gender. What a divider!

Obama has tacked to the Left even more, but it is not the Left he needs to worry about. The Left can never win elections on their own.

This lurch pretty much assures a GOP win.
The best part of the class warfare thing is that Obama too often uses that very term in some of his speeches. Also, he didn't get a lot of support for his $1 million talk so he has now graduated up to $1 billion and higher. If he is not trying to push economic class warfare I just don't know what the word means
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Hey, the rich Koch Brothers started it by backing movements against the middle class---teachers, fire and police and other public service workers. If the Left is pushing back, too bad.

Higher taxes for the millionaires and billionaires? Boohoo! It's about time they pay the same percentages as the rest of us.
I hear Obama and his followers use that term fair share but for some reason never hear what that is. Today I heard them talking about 15% for those people, high millions of earners, in fact, the amount being used at the time was $20 million. It seems to me that that amount would be $3 million in taxes. Maybe my math is old fashioned but I don't think so.
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Hey, the rich Koch Brothers started it by backing movements against the middle class---teachers, fire and police and other public service workers. If the Left is pushing back, too bad.

Higher taxes for the millionaires and billionaires? Boohoo! It's about time they pay the same percentages as the rest of us.
Are you talking about the 50% that don't pay taxes?

Or the 10% that pay OVER 71% of taxes?
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Hey, the rich Koch Brothers started it by backing movements against the middle class---teachers, fire and police and other public service workers. If the Left is pushing back, too bad.

Higher taxes for the millionaires and billionaires? Boohoo! It's about time they pay the same percentages as the rest of us.
You've fallen for the mathematically illiterate propaganda. The secretary making 50k who ignores all potential income tax-saving strategies pays 10% of the $50,000 in federal income taxes. Warren Buffett pays 17% on his tens of millions--after the companies he owns pay substantial corporate income taxes on his share.

Here's an arithmetic lesson: 17% is more than 10%. The president got this one wrong, but you can do better.
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Are you talking about the 50% that don't pay taxes?

Or the 10% that pay OVER 71% of taxes?
There you go. class warfare by the right again. That 50% are the same people who have lost jobs, trying to live on jobs that are now paying $10/hour. If you don't believe this look at the want ads. Oh but wait these are people who maybe grad. HS.and were part of that manu. that the right says will not come back so there corp. CEO's can move the jobs oversea's This is Repub. version so you see it just does't work.
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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The Republicans do not admit class warfare actually exists because they and their plutocratic owners are consistently winning back the privilege they lost during the 1950's and 60's.
Yes, the Status Quo...and they were quite happy with it.
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