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Old 09-19-2011, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is it just me, or is this "war on bullying" that is currently being raised by today's bedwetting parents completely ridiculous and a waste of time. It's like they are dead set on raising a generation of wimps who can't solve problems or face conflict on their own without involving their mommy and daddy, their teacher, the police, or the government.

I'm not even that old (29), and even when I was a kid, we were still told that the way to deal with a bully was with a swift Tyson haymaker to the side of the dome. It always worked when some punk tried to pick on me, and I certainly don't have emotional "scars" from being bullied or ever considered suicide because of it. Most of my peers will tell you the exact same thing, as will my parents and their peers from the 60s/70s. So why did we move away from what has worked for so long? Hasn't anyone heard the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?

Bullying is a part of growing up, period. It will never go away, no matter how much we get the government involved, how many celebrities join the anti-bullying crusade, or how many touchy-feely anti-bullying assembly presentations we make elementary kids sit through. Getting bullied and learning how to deal with it is a life experience that will help kids deal with bigger challenges down the road. You think there aren't "bullies" in the corporate world? Give me a break. And if your kid doesn't learn to stand up to bullies in elementary school, he will grow up to be the guy in the office that always accepts extra busy work while never receiving a promotion or even so much as a show of gratitude.

Bottom line, bullying is a part of growing up, and it would be no bigger of a deal than other preteen and teen tribulations like braces and acne if kids were just taught how to fight back instead of being blown a bunch of smoke about how our nanny government and school administrators are waging a war on bullies.

Like I heard someone say a few weeks ago: One more generation and we'll all be chicks.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:28 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Is it just me, or is this "war on bullying" that is currently being raised by today's bedwetting parents completely ridiculous and a waste of time. It's like they are dead set on raising a generation of wimps who can't solve problems or face conflict on their own without involving their mommy and daddy, their teacher, the police, or the government.

I'm not even that old (29), and even when I was a kid, we were still told that the way to deal with a bully was with a swift Tyson haymaker to the side of the dome. It always worked when some punk tried to pick on me, and I certainly don't have emotional "scars" from being bullied or ever considered suicide because of it. Most of my peers will tell you the exact same thing, as will my parents and their peers from the 60s/70s. So why did we move away from what has worked for so long? Hasn't anyone heard the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?

Bullying is a part of growing up, period. It will never go away, no matter how much we get the government involved, how many celebrities join the anti-bullying crusade, or how many touchy-feely anti-bullying assembly presentations we make elementary kids sit through. Getting bullied and learning how to deal with it is a life experience that will help kids deal with bigger challenges down the road. You think there aren't "bullies" in the corporate world? Give me a break. And if your kid doesn't learn to stand up to bullies in elementary school, he will grow up to be the guy in the office that always accepts extra busy work while never receiving a promotion or even so much as a show of gratitude.

Bottom line, bullying is a part of growing up, and it would be no bigger of a deal than other preteen and teen tribulations like braces and acne if kids were just taught how to fight back instead of being blown a bunch of smoke about how our nanny government and school administrators are waging a war on bullies.

Like I heard someone say a few weeks ago: One more generation and we'll all be chicks.
There's nothing "touchy feely" about being against bullying. It's about protecting children, pure and simple. Bullies should have the book thrown at them as hard as it can be thrown.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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There's nothing "touchy feely" about being against bullying. It's about protecting children, pure and simple. Bullies should have the book thrown at them as hard as it can be thrown.
They should be punished. But how far do we go? I mean should a kid never have to stand up for himself? Hell I had to fight every day when I was a kid.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Is it just me, or is this "war on bullying" that is currently being raised by today's bedwetting parents completely ridiculous and a waste of time. It's like they are dead set on raising a generation of wimps who can't solve problems or face conflict on their own without involving their mommy and daddy, their teacher, the police, or the government.

I'm not even that old (29), and even when I was a kid, we were still told that the way to deal with a bully was with a swift Tyson haymaker to the side of the dome. It always worked when some punk tried to pick on me, and I certainly don't have emotional "scars" from being bullied or ever considered suicide because of it. Most of my peers will tell you the exact same thing, as will my parents and their peers from the 60s/70s. So why did we move away from what has worked for so long? Hasn't anyone heard the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?

Bullying is a part of growing up, period. It will never go away, no matter how much we get the government involved, how many celebrities join the anti-bullying crusade, or how many touchy-feely anti-bullying assembly presentations we make elementary kids sit through. Getting bullied and learning how to deal with it is a life experience that will help kids deal with bigger challenges down the road. You think there aren't "bullies" in the corporate world? Give me a break. And if your kid doesn't learn to stand up to bullies in elementary school, he will grow up to be the guy in the office that always accepts extra busy work while never receiving a promotion or even so much as a show of gratitude.

Bottom line, bullying is a part of growing up, and it would be no bigger of a deal than other preteen and teen tribulations like braces and acne if kids were just taught how to fight back instead of being blown a bunch of smoke about how our nanny government and school administrators are waging a war on bullies.

Like I heard someone say a few weeks ago: One more generation and we'll all be chicks.

The problem is that there is no universally accepted definition of bullying. To me bullying is beating someone up. Hypersensitive freaks think giving some kid a nickname he doesn't like is 'bullying' and pretty soon picking some uncoordinated kid who sucks at kickball last and making him pitch will be considered 'bullying'.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: California
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We can't look at any issue thru the "when I was a kid" glasses anymore, the world is different. While I agree that a certain amount of teasing and whatnot on the playground is going to happen, kids have killed other kids now and technology has taken center stage. Those are GAME CHANGERS. It's not bullying anymore, it's violent crime and stuff that would have been considered libel and slander 30 years ago, it was UNHEARD OF to post things about people like we see today. Unfortunately our ideas of Freedom of Speech have warped over time giving an out to people who choose to do this kind of stuff. But make no mistake, "when you were a kid" this kind of crap would have been met with angry mobs and pitchforks and jail time. It's only the slow progression, and our acceptance, that makes it seem like no big deal.

The problem is drawing the line. It's always going to be a problem. I'm OK erring on the side of caution though.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: California
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Teach kids how to handle it if their parents have failed to do so, get rid of the wimp laws and stop turning kids into a bunch of crybaby wusses.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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There's nothing "touchy feely" about being against bullying. It's about protecting children, pure and simple. Bullies should have the book thrown at them as hard as it can be thrown.
You do realize that these "bullies" are also children, right?
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: California
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Teach kids how to handle it if their parents have failed to do so, get rid of the wimp laws and stop turning kids into a bunch of crybaby wusses.
Who will teach what kids, how and where? Come on, you have a solution or just want to call people names?
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There's nothing "touchy feely" about being against bullying. It's about protecting children, pure and simple. Bullies should have the book thrown at them as hard as it can be thrown.
So you think having the government and school administrators "protect" children is better than teaching them and allowing them to learn how to protect themselves?
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Is it just me, or is this "war on bullying" that is currently being raised by today's bedwetting parents completely ridiculous and a waste of time. It's like they are dead set on raising a generation of wimps who can't solve problems or face conflict on their own without involving their mommy and daddy, their teacher, the police, or the government.

I'm not even that old (29), and even when I was a kid, we were still told that the way to deal with a bully was with a swift Tyson haymaker to the side of the dome. It always worked when some punk tried to pick on me, and I certainly don't have emotional "scars" from being bullied or ever considered suicide because of it. Most of my peers will tell you the exact same thing, as will my parents and their peers from the 60s/70s. So why did we move away from what has worked for so long? Hasn't anyone heard the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?

Bullying is a part of growing up, period. It will never go away, no matter how much we get the government involved, how many celebrities join the anti-bullying crusade, or how many touchy-feely anti-bullying assembly presentations we make elementary kids sit through. Getting bullied and learning how to deal with it is a life experience that will help kids deal with bigger challenges down the road. You think there aren't "bullies" in the corporate world? Give me a break. And if your kid doesn't learn to stand up to bullies in elementary school, he will grow up to be the guy in the office that always accepts extra busy work while never receiving a promotion or even so much as a show of gratitude.

Bottom line, bullying is a part of growing up, and it would be no bigger of a deal than other preteen and teen tribulations like braces and acne if kids were just taught how to fight back instead of being blown a bunch of smoke about how our nanny government and school administrators are waging a war on bullies.

Like I heard someone say a few weeks ago: One more generation and we'll all be chicks.
There have always been bullies and there will always be bullies.

We do children a disservice by "protecting" them. It is infinitely better to give them the skills they need to take care of themselves in difficult situations. This makes them strong, self-confident adults.

It's a big, mean world out there, and the sooner children learn how to deal with it effectively the better off they are.

20yrsinBranson
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