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Old 09-27-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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Swagger,

That would be a typo if I actually wrote that.

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Who cares if it costs more and isn't a deterrent? I won't argue the point.

Society has a right to rid itself of cold blooded murderers... and I don't mean putting them in prison to hang out with their homeboys.

Even Obama agrees the DP should be applied in certain cases..

Stop coddling criminals and think of their victims for a change..
Anyone who thinks that a government program should continue when it doesn't work at all and costs more money than the alternatives is an idiot.

Rid ourselves? Sure. When's the last time that someone escaped from a supermax prison.

Where am I coddling prisoners? I'm not taking them into account. What I am taking into account is the innocent people that you would be murdering. In terms of the victims, they get justice either way and plenty of victims don't want them death penalty. Yes, I do know people very closely who have been impacted by capital crimes.

Perhaps you can come back with an argument that is something other than my emotions tell me that capital punishment is good.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Swagger,

That would be a typo if I actually wrote that.
You actually wrote that, and I prefer to consider it a Freudian slip.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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Really, based on what? The last time I checked, my arguments here were strongly information based. I'm guessing you're only saying it as you can't counter my actual arguments, so you'd rather complain about something different.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I agree with him. It doesn't matter how many people you execute. The death penalty is a barbaric form of punishment that keeps the US in the same company as Sudan, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Don't like being on that nasty list? Well abolish the death penalty then. Nearly all civilized nations have already done so.

I agree with him as well. Civilized, first-world countries should not execute people.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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We have prisons, and it costs less to keep them in prison for life. Why should you and I kill them?

Humans are fallible - we make mistakes a lot, and even if it happens once, executing people by mistake is not something our society should accept, ever. It would be better that nobody was ever executed in 100 years rather than to have one innocent person be executed.
Well-said.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Americans like the idea of executing people.
No, Americans like the idea of justice.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I agree with him. It doesn't matter how many people you execute. The death penalty is a barbaric form of punishment that keeps the US in the same company as Sudan, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Don't like being on that nasty list? Well abolish the death penalty then. Nearly all civilized nations have already done so.
I have an idea... don't want to be executed? Don't murder anyone!
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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It doesn't reduce crime and it costs more. You'd have to be rather stupid to say that killing people is a good option.
It only "costs more" because of the many appeals.
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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Then explain why well over half the countries in the world still have the death penalty.
They are the 3rd world (with the exception of the Asian nations) for the most part. Places like Iran. Almost all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, most of South America, etc. have banned it. Basically East Asia, Africa, and the Middle East are the only places who still have it in large numbers.
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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Anti-death penalty advocates tend to paint the United States as one of a few countries who have the death penalty as law. In reality, there are about 130 other countries (out of 190 or so) who have a death penalty law. The point remains,....America is not alone, and just because some don't like the death penalty doesn't translate into our being "wrong".

Societies have judged citizenry for thousand of years. Why is so wrong to rid humanity of the inhumane?
Um, no we paint the United States as one of the only Western, 1st world nations who still has the death penalty. Sure, it's still used a lot in Africa and the Middle East. Do you want us to behave like those barbarians who have the highest human rights violations on Earth?
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