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When they tied in decreasing polar ice sheets on MARS to the Suns activity, which mirrored our own Earths warming, that was pretty much it for man made global warming.
I do think we have a small effect on it, and by cutting greenhouse gasses could have an even smaller effect on that. Its something to shoot for, not critical, but nobody else is. Go to China and explain global warming to them as they increase their output of industrial emissions. But I refuse to help anybody get rich off of pushing global warming theory and economic extortion.
When people want to get back to real environmental issues like clean air, clean water, pollution and waste reduction, I'll listen. Until then, they can blather on all they want about "global warmology" and what "scienticians" say is causing it.
When they tied in decreasing polar ice sheets on MARS to the Suns activity, which mirrored our own Earths warming, that was pretty much it for man made global warming.
Mars has (almost) no atmosphere and certainly no greenhouse gases to keep the planet warm. So yes, that's fine.
Introduce an opaque atmosphere with gases and clouds and the story is much more complex.
But.....there is no warming. All temperature data says warming stopped a decade or so ago....yet Co2 is at very, very, high, dangerous levels.
I wonder how they'll explain that to the muddled masses of AGW cult believers.
The sad part is that you are all here yucking it up about GW and in the meantime our fuel driven trade imbalance is helping to suck money out of our country.
I'm pro-conservation from the viewpoint of a fiscal conservative. It's a shame that everyone bogs down on the GW issue so much so that you can't even have a reasoned conversation about alternate energy without running into immediate opposition because that sounds like "greeny AGW talk".
The sad part is that you are all here yucking it up about GW and in the meantime our fuel driven trade imbalance is helping to suck money out of our country.
I'm pro-conservation from the viewpoint of a fiscal conservative. It's a shame that everyone bogs down on the GW issue so much so that you can't even have a reasoned conversation about alternate energy without running into immediate opposition because that sounds like "greeny AGW talk".
the problem is the GW people want to blame man for a natural thing, and then only talk about a tax and not a solution
look here in the USA, we could have taken the money spend on stimulus and bailouts, and built a dozen nuclear plants, or put a solar electric system on almost every home in the USA, eliminating the need for coal fossil fuel fire plants
but no we would rather bame man and want to have another tax, for people like gore to get rich on
The sad part is that you are all here yucking it up about GW and in the meantime our fuel driven trade imbalance is helping to suck money out of our country.
I'm pro-conservation from the viewpoint of a fiscal conservative. It's a shame that everyone bogs down on the GW issue so much so that you can't even have a reasoned conversation about alternate energy without running into immediate opposition because that sounds like "greeny AGW talk".
The problem there I think is that while there is some "potential" in some technologies (no, not solar, wind, etc...), but without letting the free market develop them we force ourselves down paths to which may be a dead end, impractical, etc...
I say, why waste tax payer money on researching technologies when you can have the private market who is salivating over the aspect of being the first to provide something ground breaking? When it becomes practical, viable, cost effective, etc... someone will come out with it, it is the nature of competitive progression.
Where you get standstills and costly solutions is when you throw government into the mix. Government isn't innovative, it is like the stupid kid who always is late to the conversation and arrogantly proclaiming a point everyone knew long before he entered.
Such divisive talk employing sensational rhetoric deprives the audience of any useful information
Judge obama's character and intent by listening to his 'all or nothing at all' rhetoric aimed at his political enemies.
What kind of leader would suggest his opponents will remove ALL Epa regs to leave people dying in the streets. All for the benefit of the 'rich' and at the sacrifice of the poor.
Such divisive talk employing sensational rhetoric deprives the audience of any useful information. A great orator would be considered a great communicator. Obama is neither. His sum total is the theatrical image the propagandist media has created for him.
Judge obama's character and intent by listening to his 'all or nothing at all' rhetoric aimed at his political enemies.
What kind of leader would suggest his opponents will remove ALL Epa regs to leave people dying in the streets. All for the benefit of the 'rich' and at the sacrifice of the poor.
Such divisive talk employing sensational rhetoric deprives the audience of any useful information. A great orator would be considered a great communicator. Obama is neither. His sum total is the theatrical image the propagandist media has created for him.
That is why Obama is a chump, some would say he was a puppet for Kennedy who was left spinning in the wind when he died.
The sad part is that you are all here yucking it up about GW and in the meantime our fuel driven trade imbalance is helping to suck money out of our country.
I'm pro-conservation from the viewpoint of a fiscal conservative. It's a shame that everyone bogs down on the GW issue so much so that you can't even have a reasoned conversation about alternate energy without running into immediate opposition because that sounds like "greeny AGW talk".
That's correct. I guess that's because to many people these issues have become an ideological thing. So people are all fired up and trying to win an ideology match at any price, even if a compromise would be the better solution.
I find it OK for a government to try and guide long-term developments. Maybe I am just not ingenious enough anymore to trust in market forces alone. Sometimes people need a little push in the right direction. There are subsidies for all kinds of things such as agriculture, why not for green energy?
I think the prospect of becoming self-sufficient in energy, and that with little impact on the environment and hardly any risks to people should be very appealing to everyone.
So...... we should still be living in the cold and misery of the little ice-age?
Where is the normal climate for you people, was it the year al Gore was born, and anything that deviates from that is catastrophic and apocalyptic?
Wait.... before you post it, don't bother to link to some scammer's climate chart that shows temp increases measured from within the little ice-age, and claim it shows definitive proof of man-made global warming.
Did I say that warming was man made, or that it was a bad thing? If you think you can read my mind, then I have to tell you, you suck at it. Personally I'm looking forward to a warming world, and my house is 80 meters above sea level, so I don't even have to be concerned about being flooded out....Bring it on...The warmer climate that is.
Did I say that warming was man made, or that it was a bad thing? If you think you can read my mind, then I have to tell you, you suck at it. Personally I'm looking forward to a warming world, and my house is 80 meters above sea level, so I don't even have to be concerned about being flooded out....Bring it on...The warmer climate that is.
The problem is that temperatures are not the only thing that would change. Nobody really knows all the consequences that such a change would bring.
With 7 billion humans and just one planet we should think a zillion times before we do anything on a grand scale.
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