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Old 11-27-2011, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Yep ... Obama did much more than cut the military ... he changed the rules of engagement which tied our soldiers hands behind their back, restricted their ability to fight and defend themselves, as a result our troops suffered many more deaths and injuries ... Obama even changed the way we interrogate captured enemy combatants ... removed the CIA from the battle field so they don't get interrogated .... they get miranda rights as if they were US citizens in a police action ... as a result we get no intelligence from the captured enemy soldiers ...
Do you have proof of this nonsense? More high level terrorists have been killed since Obama has been in office than the 8 years that Bush was. Explain how Obama has tied our troops hands behind their backs?
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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Once again, you can have your own opinion. The facts are not debatable.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-at-the-altar/
Yeah ... we heard what happened with that ... supposedly Obama did come to an agreement with Bonehner (Boner) but at the last minute Obama reneged on the agreement and wanted much more ... Bonehner realized Obama was not negotiating in good faith and probably never intended to come to an agreement.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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Once again, you can have your own opinion. The facts are not debatable.

Obama and Boehner Back at the Altar? - ABC News
Your evidence is some blogger

I am told that Speaker Boehner and President Obama are once again having back-channel talks on a large-scale deficit reduction plan that would include cuts to entitlement programs and increases in tax revenues.

WHERE IS THE PLAN WINTER!!!!
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Here
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Your evidence is some blogger

I am told that Speaker Boehner and President Obama are once again having back-channel talks on a large-scale deficit reduction plan that would include cuts to entitlement programs and increases in tax revenues.

WHERE IS THE PLAN WINTER!!!!
It's indisputable because it's on a blog. Duh!
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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Yeah ... we heard what happened with that ... supposedly Obama did come to an agreement with Bonehner (Boner) but at the last minute Obama reneged on the agreement and wanted much more ... Bonehner realized Obama was not negotiating in good faith and probably never intended to come to an agreement.
So there was an offer?
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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Do you have proof of this nonsense? More high level terrorists have been killed since Obama has been in office than the 8 years that Bush was. Explain how Obama has tied our troops hands behind their backs?
The high level terrorist that were killed were killed by unmanned drone attacks and intelligence gathered by other means. Actually, with the action today in Pakistan, it looks like Obama was able to shut that operation down since the drones were based in Pakistan and now they are being kicked out.
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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So there was an offer?
There was an agreement but Obama reneged at the last moment ... The agreement was never on paper from what I understand ... just verbal
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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There was an agreement but Obama reneged at the last moment ...
That's your opinion. The facts say otherwise.
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:07 PM
 
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Do you have proof of this nonsense? More high level terrorists have been killed since Obama has been in office than the 8 years that Bush was. Explain how Obama has tied our troops hands behind their backs?
As far as the changes to the rules of engagement ... I can't produce the actual rules since they are classified ... but here is a link that talks about it to some degree. If you know someone who served in Afghanistan then asked them to explain the changes and the impacts on our troops.

Petraeus Urged to Change Rules of Engagement for U.S. Troops in Afghanistan
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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That's your opinion. The facts say otherwise.
This is what Boehner said immediately after Obama reneged ... and he was pissed at the news conference.


Boehner on Debt Limit: White House Insisted on Raising Taxes, Moved Goalposts - YouTube!
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