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Old 11-29-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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A passport lets you to take a vacation in Europe.
It doesn't let you live there.

Believe me though, if I could move to Europe I'd do it in a heartbeat. So for now I'll have to settle for Canada.
The US is going downhill fast and I want to get off the Titanic before it sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
A lot of Americans would.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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In Spain everyone is just plummeting is that country is falling apart like Greece so that doesn't count.
and it doesn't really matter its only one study.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
 
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Actually those companies take our technology and THEN use it.
Ehm - no? Vestas & Siemens started R&D back when the US wouldn't have dreamt of taking wind power seriously. There's no US technology for them to take.

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They are building factories here because thats where the consumer are. Its no coincidence they are building those factories here and not there

You actually proved my point for me.. Thanks
You don't think Vestas and Siemens has production facilities in their home countries? The point - which sailed straight over your head with enough energy to power a small village - is that a green company like Vestas can build their own factories right in the back yard of competing US companies, because the US companies were asleep at the wheel and now have 10-15 years of R&D to catch up with.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The report finds the U.S. ranking well below Denmark, Australia, Norway, Finland, Canada, Sweden, Germany and Spain in terms of how freely citizens move up or down the social ladder.

This is not surprising.
Given the way Americans throw away money, it's no wonder they can't move up. Your report did address that issue, right? I mean it did take into consideration things like personal savings rates, etc, right? Personal debt was examined as well, right?

No. What a bogus study.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:27 PM
 
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Why would this bother you? It's better to have a society with a middle class majority than a wealthy minority and a brainwashed majority thinking they can become one of the "haves". It's better to have affordable education so that those at the bottom who have a harder time in life from day one can climb the social mobility ladder more easily.
You nailed it! For many Americans, the vague promise of becoming millionaires one day, justifies a life of poverty.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:30 PM
 
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How many millionaires come out of those countries? I don't think too many do.
Germany has the 5th most millionaires of any country in the world.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10...ionaires/6.htm
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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Because we're more competitive.

If I lived in Europe, I'd probably be a King.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:14 PM
 
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Because we're more competitive.
Your higher likelihood to share an income bracket with your parents indicate more competition in your mind? Sorry, your majesty, but that makes no sense.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:16 PM
 
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You nailed it! For many Americans, the vague promise of becoming millionaires one day, justifies a life of poverty.
I can't find the statistic right now, but there was an interesting survey - a full 12% of Americans think they'll end up in the top 1%. That figure is higher in the US than most other places.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:22 PM
 
Location: southern california
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cant speak for everybody and my daddy is not rich-- but 5 years in france and 2 in asia proves, hands down america is the land of opportunity for the boy from the poor side of town.
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