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Old 11-29-2011, 11:05 PM
 
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I think you can make it both places if you work hard, improve yourself, and keep at it.

I will say, after a couple years in Sweden, there was much less poverty, a very broad middle class, smart, educated and informed people, clean, well-run cities and town, a clean environment, and plenty of wealthy folks too. Seems like most people took yearly vacations to the Alps or Mediterranean or Thailand, yet also had elegantly appointed homes as well. Also, the work/life balance seemed better. People worked hard and actually took vacations and time off for family holidays.

America is a great country, but it has too many very poor and very ignorant people, too much filth, and too much squalor and crime. The social contract between workers and companies means nothing, and most working people make up for it with credit cards and WalMart, even as corporate types are jet shopping. Many of the people in the nastier ghetto type places seem to be trapped. And we have smart and uber wealthy people too who fight the inheritance tax tooth and nail so they can start their kids in third base. As long as they can read watch a rags to riches story on TV, the typical American keeps drinking the koolaid that they can claw their way to the top. Compared to much of northern Europe, I think the gap is definitely wider and barriers between levels higher.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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cant speak for everybody and my daddy is not rich-- but 5 years in france and 2 in asia proves, hands down america is the land of opportunity for the boy from the poor side of town.
Yet, somehow you speak for everybody in the same sentence.
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Old 11-30-2011, 10:02 AM
 
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cant speak for everybody and my daddy is not rich-- but 5 years in france and 2 in asia proves, hands down america is the land of opportunity for the boy from the poor side of town.
Not sure exactly what you mean here, but if you're saying that the US is a relatively easy place for immigrants to succeed, you're probably right. For one thing, English is pretty much everybody's second language.
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