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Old 12-08-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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Oh heck, I'll take a shot at this one.

I guess it's the principle behind folks being cynical and no-longer trusting what the experts say in way, too many cases and then them being discovered for their errors, lies or revelations of "tampered evidence."

Sorta like the recent revelation of the Climategate emails.

Also like when they find out that often studies have been financed by other than objective sources, like Big Pharma bankrolling a study that supposedly proves that some drug or immunization is safe and doing no harm.

It's having some of the experts now claim that "there are problems" with carbon dating, etc. etc.
Mmm no. I'm pretty sure it's because they're stupid.

Mostly on purpose as it turns out, which just makes it all the more annoying.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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This is classic Orwellian double speak. The fossil record PROVES evolution to be a myth. They are still looking for one dingle little link after 200 freakin years of loking for one. Sure they will pull out a fragment of a single bone they have built a complete species around but it's nothing at all but a load of CRAP.
As previously stated, there is no one link. There are millions of links between A and Z. You can find 30% of them, and if you do you've done pretty good. But there will never be every link found.

Its not double speak. But we do have enough fossil record, and cases of changing grass to corn, as well as wolves to dogs, that we know that small changes over time can lead to massive differences. That is evolution. It doesn't explain how life began, but it does explain how man came from an ape. It doesn't mean that this isn't the way God did it, maybe he did. But if you think he made a woman from a mans rib, you've got problems.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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As previously stated, there is no one link. There are millions of links between A and Z. You can find 30% of them, and if you do you've done pretty good. But there will never be every link found.

Its not double speak. But we do have enough fossil record, and cases of changing grass to corn, as well as wolves to dogs, that we know that small changes over time can lead to massive differences. That is evolution. It doesn't explain how life began, but it does explain how man came from an ape. It doesn't mean that this isn't the way God did it, maybe he did. But if you think he made a woman from a mans rib, you've got problems.
You are absolutely WRONG. There are no fossil record at all that show the gradual changes from grass to corn, NONE.

Genetic scientists are still debating the origins of dogs. There are not as you claim there are fossils that show any kind of evolutionary change. What the evolutionists do is to show two completely different species and fill in the blanks with their imagination. As a kid in school we were shown this series of changes in a small animal that gradually becomes a horse. It ws not until I was long out of school that I found out that they have the fossil of the small little animal and the horse and nothing else at all. All those in between stages are what they have never found not one single time. Evolutionists don't like it but the fact of the matter is this lack of any connectioning links just destroys the theory entirely. They would be there if the theory held any water at all. As I said before there is a very rich strata of fossils that runs right by my house. Out of the billions upon billions of fossils in that strada, every single one of them is a type, Named and Identified. There are ZERO examples of any evolutionary changes in these fossils. IF THEY EXISTED THEY WOULD BE THERE. THE EVOLUTIONISTS WILL TAKE ONE OF THOSE TYPES AND TELL YOU IT CHANGED INTO THIS DIFFERENT TYPE. It's just so much BS. It reduces their credibility to below nothing. Ya, we have this organism and all of a sudden it changed completely into a completely different life form altogether and that is why there is no fossil record. They have actually come up with this.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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How about the fact that your body contains ten times the amount of bacteria than in "human cell." The obvious evolution of a bacteria called Stromatolites. Go Google it...
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:55 PM
 
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This is classic Orwellian double speak. The fossil record PROVES evolution to be a myth. They are still looking for one dingle little link after 200 freakin years of loking for one. Sure they will pull out a fragment of a single bone they have built a complete species around but it's nothing at all but a load of CRAP.
You know what's crap? Your God putting you on a finite planet that's 1,000 light years away from anything similar to it and then summarily telling you to be fruitful and multiply. Your God is a jealous joke playing God who plays roulette with your infinitely small little lives and then snickers behind your back and how easily you're amused and enthused with his petty little ways.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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You know what's crap? Your God putting you on a finite planet that's 1,000 light years away from anything similar to it and then summarily telling you to be fruitful and multiply. Your God is a jealous joke playing God who plays roulette with your infinitely small little lives and then snickers behind your back and how easily you're amused and enthused with his petty little ways.
Never once in this entire thread did I mention God or wether I believe in him or not. That's a real big problem with evolutionists. They can only weigh the value of what they believe by what someone else does. That is intellectual dishonesty of the highest degree. let things stand or fall on their own merit and nothing else at all. For so long it was a kind of suicide for any scientist to come out in opposition to evolution. Those days are passing by now though and you can well expect that more and more and more researchers will repudiate it as time goes by. They are tired of beating this dead horse and giving tact approval to something they see as false.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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Global Warming is referred to in The Book of Revelation. The end is near!

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Old 12-08-2011, 07:18 PM
 
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I'm guessing you weren't interested in those facts...

Let's go through them.

When the Big Bang occurred there was perfect order. Don't believe me, let's go through that...

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Heat cannot be transfer from a colder to a hotter body. As a result of this fact of thermodynamics, natural processes that involve energy transfer must have one direction, and all natural processes are irreversible. This law also predicts that the entropy of an isolated system always increases with time. Entropy is the measure of the disorder or randomness of energy and matter in a system. Because of the second law of thermodynamics both energy and matter in the Universe are becoming less useful as time goes on. Perfect order in the Universe occurred the instant after the Big Bang when energy and matter and all of the forces of the Universe were unified.
6(e). Laws of Thermodynamics

Perfect order occurred in the instant after the BB and complete choas will be present at the end.

What that means is while heat (energy) was omnipresent in the very beginning of the universe, it was too concentrated to allow any sort of discernible life to form.

Approximately 9.5 billion year later of "cooling off" life was able to start forming. It formed, as you might expect, in the form of bacteria, whose sole purpose is to consume and reproduce..

Humans Have Ten Times More Bacteria Than Human Cells: How Do Microbial Communities Affect Human Health?

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[SIZE=2]We humans are, in simple terms, bags of water filled with proteins and prokaryotic bacteria (the bacteria in your body outnumber the cells in your body about 10 to 1). We humans have descended from organisms that adapted to living in a prokaryotic world, and we humans retain (conserved in evolutionary terms) in our Eukaraotic mitochondria the cellular machinery to power our cells that we inherited (i.e., Endosymbiosis) from the prokaryotes of deep time on earth.[/SIZE]
Stromatolites

So, you can naturally expect a evolution of life. Life being a product that its only recourse is to consume and reproduce (argue against that point, please).

Now, you're arguing that your sole purpose isn't to consume and reproduce but to do something else (which is a complete and utter lie).

Now, when you look at life on Earth it requires light, or electromagnetic radiation, which sends protons through everything living on this planet. The food you eat is sustained by life. The protein you so desire is sustained by EMR.

We know, without a doubt, that microwave background radiation exist and always will, even to the point of a total collapse in the universe. That's the driving force behind constant change after all, evolution.

In fact it's omnipresent.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:21 PM
 
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Never once in this entire thread did I mention God or wether I believe in him or not. That's a real big problem with evolutionists. They can only weigh the value of what they believe by what someone else does. That is intellectual dishonesty of the highest degree. let things stand or fall on their own merit and nothing else at all. For so long it was a kind of suicide for any scientist to come out in opposition to evolution. Those days are passing by now though and you can well expect that more and more and more researchers will repudiate it as time goes by. They are tired of beating this dead horse and giving tact approval to something they see as false.
There's no one, and I mean zero people, who have any sort of authority on the subject that think some strange deity created everything you know and see around you an feel your only recourse to adhering to that deity is antiquated rituals and obscure prayer.

None... Meaning no one at all at any time.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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There's no one, and I mean zero people, who have any sort of authority on the subject that think some strange deity created everything you know and see around you an feel your only recourse to adhering to that deity is antiquated rituals and obscure prayer.

None... Meaning no one at all at any time.
When you can't prove anything, attack the other guy. It works in a courtroom but not in a lab.
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