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Old 12-15-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Oh ok so your detained in a prison in the US without a trial. Boy that makes it so much better.
Beat me too it was going to make the same point, but another one is why would we want the POTUS to have that much power where he decides if you should be turned over to the military.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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Because the U.S. news has already covered how changes in the legislation point out how the President demanded changes to make sure that CITIZENS would not be handed over to the military and indefinite detention or Guantanamo...in this piece here. The Patriot Act is another deal all together.
The admin specifically wanted wording removed from the legislation that would have protected US citizens.


Proof Obama will sign NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law in a few days.flv - YouTube
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Just our posts here could be enough. The definition of "threat" is totally up to them.
I know I am screwed if they have read my post I will be classified as a enemy combatant.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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Oi! Some just don't get it. So let's go slow, even w/ this piece of jibbering journalism, buried right in the middle is this:



Therefore no Guantanamo for U.S. citizens. As has been expressed and pointed out to right wing extremists attempting to keep obfuscating and smoke screening more important issues.
Do you think it's okay to hold anyone without trial? Constitutional protections don't just cover citizens.

Frankly, the whole Jose Padilla ordeal is proof enough that the Federal government is willing to detain US citizens without trial regardless of legislative approval.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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The Padilla fiasco is exactly why they want this worded in law. The Bush admin claimed the executive branch has the authority to do as they did so off to the court system the whole thing went. This bill spells it right out so there is no legal recourse.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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US lawmakers vote on indefinite detention - Features - Al Jazeera English

Yes the video is 25 minutes long -BUT- it will be better then any discussion you will see on TV at large.

Not about the flop, but rather what NDAA is, and frankly, it's scary as hell.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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They want to indefinitely detain anyone who expresses frustration with the current economic system and corporate rule.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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We're all terrorists now
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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Big Sis has labeled returning veterans and tea partiers as potential terrorists. Who could be next...one wonders.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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At least now we'll have a place to put him and his useful idiots!
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