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Old 01-10-2012, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Near the water
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To some people money is the only thing that counts or can be counted.

So true and I am glad that my life is not like that.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Houston
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No one should be destroyed by health concerns in a country as wealthy as ours. It is a disgrace, and quite unChristian. I can never figure out how being selfish and cold is admirable to social conservatives, who claim to be Christian and morally superior to libs.
Maybe if she had kept her weight under control her health problems would not have come.The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The liberals love everyone, they are like the soft-hearted Mommy who give their children everything and never discipline. The resulting product is seldom good. By the way, this has to do with fiscal conservatism, not social conservatism.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:46 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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>associate professor of hospitality management at the University of New Hampshire, waiters and waitresses can easily pull down $150,000 a year as long as they do two things – act like entrepreneurs and think of their tables as a franchise.<

In about .05% of restaurants. That being said. You can work an TGIs etc and make $15 to $20 an hour in a good location. Not $150K, but the wolves are probably not just outside your door waiting for you to starve either. You will be busting er buttocks for the lunch dinner rush for 4ish hours of your shift. And yes I actually know some people who do this/ or have done this recently not someone pontificating 30 years later while they work/ retire all comfy.

One trick I remember a friend of mine telling me: Keep their drinks filled. This is their easiest way for them to see you taking care of them. Oh and dont work mothers day. Apparently its one of those days non-tippers all come out.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:47 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I can never figure out how being selfish and cold is admirable to social conservatives, who claim to be Christian and morally superior to libs.
Your bigotry is showing. Not all social conservatives are Christians. There are other religions, you know.

And social conservatives could say the exact same thing of social liberals... We can never figure out how being selfish and cold by making extremely poor life and health decisions and then expecting someone else to pay for the inevitable consequences is admirable.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Maybe if she had kept her weight under control her health problems would not have come.The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The liberals love everyone, they are like the soft-hearted Mommy who give their children everything and never discipline. The resulting product is seldom good. By the way, this has to do with fiscal conservatism, not social conservatism.
How many conservatives are obese and underinsured? How many will be turning away Medicare, even though they fought it tooth and nail in their working years? This selective morality and rationalization gets old. Nobody is perfect, but they are deserving of compassion nonetheless. Jesus never said, love thy neighbor, if he is up to your standards. There but for the grace of God go you. Being a judgmental tightass is not a way to run a society.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Your bigotry is showing. Not all social conservatives are Christians. There are other religions, you know.

And social conservatives could say the exact same thing of social liberals... We can never figure out how being selfish and cold by making extremely poor life and health decisions and then expecting someone else to pay for the inevitable consequences is admirable.
Sure, but none put a premium on being uncompassionate and selfish. Seems like the godless heathens do a better job of caring than the religious. Go figure.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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What people don't seem to realize is that "class warfare" has been going on for years and the wealthy class has already won and the working and middle classes have already been defeated.
There is no "class" of people in the US, we are not Europe. You are not born to a certain class or income level, where you and your children and grandchildren are destined to remain for all eternity. In the US, you can be born into poverty and grow up to be a doctor, engineer or architect, and earn over $300,000 a year, or you could be the next Walmart CEO or Bill Gates.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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Sure, but none put a premium on being uncompassionate and selfish. Seems like the godless heathens do a better job of caring than the religious. Go figure.
The godless heathens in the last century murdered a hundred million of their own people. Of course, it helps if your a communist, socialist, godless heathen.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Sure, but none put a premium on being uncompassionate and selfish.
How are they compassionate? With other people's money? Why don't they contribute/donate their own and stop insisting everyone BUT them pay? And how is it NOT selfish to expect other people to pay for the consequences of their own poor choices and self-destructive behavior?
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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How many will be turning away Medicare
Not many, considering they paid the required premiums for the federally mandated social insurance throughout their working years.

Such is not so of the poor. There is no mandatory contribution that must be paid to receive Medicaid. It's a freebie paid for by others, who incidentally ALSO have to pay for their own Medicare while footing the bill for the Medicaid freeloaders.
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