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Old 01-10-2012, 08:38 AM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Both social and fiscal conservatives have the same basic philosophy that can best be summed up as; "I've got mine and I don't want you to have any."

Social - I've got my marriage, my rules, my religion and you don't get to have your own unless they are exactly like mine.

Fiscal - I've got all the marbles and I'll do everything I can to make sure you don't get a single marble cause you don't deserve one.

The greed, selfishness, and simmering anger that fuels their lives is ugly and, in the end, unsustainable. History has shown over and over agains that eventually the people will tire of such injustice and revolt. After all, that is how the U.S. began, isn't it?
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Houston
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How many conservatives are obese and underinsured? How many will be turning away Medicare, even though they fought it tooth and nail in their working years? This selective morality and rationalization gets old. Nobody is perfect, but they are deserving of compassion nonetheless. Jesus never said, love thy neighbor, if he is up to your standards. There but for the grace of God go you. Being a judgmental tightass is not a way to run a society.
Why don't you actually volunteer to pay some higher taxes yourself than try to stick it all on the rich? Ya quite quite a do-gooder with other people's money. A liberal who would propose rescinding all of Bush's tax cuts I could at least respect, even if I still disagreed with him.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Both social and fiscal conservatives have the same basic philosophy that can best be summed up as; "I've got mine and I don't want you to have any."
No, it's: "I've earned mine, and you're free to earn yours."
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The greed, selfishness, and simmering anger that fuels their lives is ugly and, in the end, unsustainable. History has shown over and over agains that eventually the people will tire of such injustice and revolt. After all, that is how the U.S. began, isn't it?
No, it is not. It was taxation that began the Revolution. Try reading some history. Irealize you think people keeping the money they earn is an injustice.

Taxing one individual simply so you can hand it to the other is theft, pure and simple. Immoral no matter how you go about it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Dr. Walter Williams explains the immorality of the liberal position:

"Once one accepts the principle of self-ownership, what's moral and immoral becomes self-evident. Murder is immoral because it violates private property. Rape and theft are also immoral -- they also violate private property. Here's an important question: Would rape become morally acceptable if Congress passed a law legalizing it? You say: "What's wrong with you, Williams? Rape is immoral plain and simple, no matter what Congress says or does!" If you take that position, isn't it just as immoral when Congress legalizes the taking of one person's earnings to give to another? Surely if a private person took money from one person and gave it to another, we'd deem it theft and, as such, immoral. Does the same act become moral when Congress takes people's money to give to farmers, airline companies or an impoverished family? No, it's still theft, but with an important difference: It's legal, and participants aren't jailed."
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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The 44-year-old mother of five grown children. Well, apparently she didn't feel that poor because she felt she could afford to have five children.

Or she was forced to have five children due to the lack of contraception allowed to her as a right wing "Christian" women, or the inability to have any abortions by the same right wing anti women religious/political groups.... and her husband, boyfriend, or rapist/abuser wouldn't keep it in his pants and/or wear any kind of contraception himself.....then he.... or they....dumped her and left her to feed those 5 kids herself.

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Old 01-10-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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>associate professor of hospitality management at the University of New Hampshire, waiters and waitresses can easily pull down $150,000 a year as long as they do two things – act like entrepreneurs and think of their tables as a franchise.<

In about .05% of restaurants. That being said. You can work an TGIs etc and make $15 to $20 an hour in a good location. Not $150K, but the wolves are probably not just outside your door waiting for you to starve either. You will be busting er buttocks for the lunch dinner rush for 4ish hours of your shift. And yes I actually know some people who do this/ or have done this recently not someone pontificating 30 years later while they work/ retire all comfy.

One trick I remember a friend of mine telling me: Keep their drinks filled. This is their easiest way for them to see you taking care of them. Oh and dont work mothers day. Apparently its one of those days non-tippers all come out.
Mothers Day and I'd also include Easter were hands down the worst days to work. The other waiters would conveniently call out sick or take their vacations on those days.

These were the days the ghetto folks would come out en masse and just cause havoc.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Tough story, all too common. The only opinion I have is if the lady (she's huge) lost some weight she might not have all those medical bills.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Tough story, all too common. The only opinion I have is if the lady (she's huge) lost some weight she might not have all those medical bills.
Now, now...you don't want to encourage personal responsibility.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Near the water
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Tough story, all too common. The only opinion I have is if the lady (she's huge) lost some weight she might not have all those medical bills.

Ever considered that perhaps because of her health problems/medications she gained the weight?
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