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Old 01-17-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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I don't see many of the defenders of the Confederate traitors volunteering to be slaves themselves, or to sell their children into slavery, seeing as how benevolent slave owners were, and how good slavery was for the slaves.
Hey jackmac! Your posts and "points" don't really warrant much more than a flippant reply: In this case? In answer to your question? Where does slavery still exist in the American South (or anyplace else in the Americans) where anybody could "volunteer" at all?
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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Exactly.

Who celebrates traitors and losers anyway?
LMAO. What do you "celebrate"...slcpunk? Just curious...
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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LMAO. What do you "celebrate"...slcpunk? Just curious...



Ignorance.
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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If the confederate traitors didn't know why they were in a war, then they are even more clueless than I previously thought.
Enlighten us? Why were they at war? Could it have been that they invaded by northern armies?

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Old 01-17-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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LMAO. What do you "celebrate"...slcpunk? Just curious...
Beating the South to a pulp, ending slavery, and teaching all future traitors a lesson.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:03 PM
 
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Beating the South to a pulp, ending slavery, and teaching all future traitors a lesson.
*yawwwwwwns* Now then, answer the question sans the sophomoric attempt at provocation.

Ready? Why did the North invade the South? To end slavery? To beat them to a pulp? To teach future "traitors" a lesson? As in that the principles of "government by consent of the governed" (which was that of the original Union) no longer meant anything?

Tell us, SavetheFair. One, some, all...?
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Well, here is a hint..
The North DID NOT enter the WAR to END SLAVERY.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:04 AM
 
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Slavery was only one issue among many, the civil war was a fight for independence from the federal government.
...the states right to continue the practice of slavery. It wasn't the only issue, but because of it's existence, slavery is NOT a moot point. Anybody who says otherwise is trying to spin the facts. Slavery falls under the veil of "states rights".
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I think the South's motivation was just that. Lincoln had already proclaimed that a divided house could not stand. It would become all of one thing or all of the other.. The south knew the North would never adopt slavery again so in their eyes the election of Lincoln was a direct threat to their way of life and slavery.

Now for the North, it was NOT about ending slavery. Lincoln even said that if he could end the war without freeing a single slave, he would. Lincoln's sole motivation for WAR was to pull the Southern States back into the UNION. The Emancipation became a way to expedite the war and it added men to the North's Army. It was convenient to put it mildly. No doubt Lincoln abhored slavery and wanted it to end but he didn't have any plans of ending it prior to the war.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Thats interesting, I did not know that and I also found this on wiki...

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''General Robert E. Lee did not own slaves. His wife inherited slaves from her father. He freed those for which he could find jobs. He did not free those too old to work and support themselves''.



In addition, Lee's father-inlaw, a grandson of Martha Washington, had another daughter, Maria Carter Syphax, by one of his slaves. He freed her and her children and gave her a plot of land of her own.
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