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Old 01-19-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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Which means exactly what? Which school system is it a part of?
This explains it Charter school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Ok, thanks. That's about what I thought it meant.

In any case, it would seem that closing the achievement gap would probably be easier if a school doesn't have to meet the same standards as other schools and can limit itself to one race, thereby eliminating a lot of tension.

The point is that what works at Harvest probably won't work in your average, every day public school. Consequently, while what they've done there is great, it's probably not transferable to other schools or indicative of what's possible for everyone.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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Ok, thanks. That's about what I thought it meant.

In any case, it would seem that closing the achievement gap would probably be easier if a school doesn't have to meet the same standards as other schools and can limit itself to one race, thereby eliminating a lot of tension.

The point is that what works at Harvest probably won't work in your average, every day public school. Consequently, while what they've done there is great, it's probably not transferable to other schools or indicative of what's possible for everyone.
The tests they are referring to are the Minnesota standardized tests. This school is excelling. Why? I think they push the kids harder than most schools.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The tests they are referring to are the Minnesota standardized tests. This school is excelling. Why? I think they push the kids harder than most schools.

You don't think that not having to comply with the same bureaucratic hoop-jumps as other schools or having to deal with racial tensions (which are always there) has anything to do with it?

Harvest is a unique school, so it's not outside the bounds of reasonableness to expect unique results, is it?

I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone wanted to open an all white charter school?
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You might find a few facts about this school to be interesting.

In the first place, it's not a part of the Minneapolis Public School System. At least, it is not listed among their schools on their website.

It apparently is entirely funded by Title 1 grants.

It is selective in which students it takes.

And, the kicker? It has approximately 350 students in Pre-K through 6 and they are ALL black! There are no white kids, hispanic kids or kids of any other race going to school there.

I thought segregation was illegal.
Interesting facts but the racial segregation is not surprising and I don't think it is illegal since the school is not a public one.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: North America
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Black parents who care about education, sure but culturally they're in the minority otherwise there wouldn't be a gap would there? There's a reason why blacks/hispanics continue to lag behind whites/asians. Why would that be? Can't blame institutional racism because plenty of other minority ethnic groups have thrived in US education institutions.
When you starve inner-city schools of the money and give the money to the wealthy schools then what do you expect?

If this continues then African-Americans will have no choice but take to the streets.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When you starve inner-city schools of the money and give the money to the wealthy schools then what do you expect?

If this continues then African-Americans will have no choice but take to the streets.
It's not the money. Most inner city schools get the brunt of the money and it's not helping.

Throwing more money at a problem that is not financial will not solve anything.

The results of this charter school show that.
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Washington D.C. has the highest per capita spending on pub. ed. in the country.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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"The Bell Curve" explains the reasons behind the "achievement gaps", millions have been spent since the 70's, to no avail. Idealism is pretty damn expensive, ain't it?
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:27 AM
 
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The biggest difference in education between blacks and whites is cultural: kids who succeed in school have parents who care about their kids' education and don't act like public school is just free child care or believe that the teachers have no right to discipline unruly children.
Not all poor performing students are unruly in class and are cussing at teachers. A lot of the problem is a lack of study skills. I imagine if we compare the hours spent on studying and doing homework, well performing with poor performing kids would show massive differences
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