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Everyone on here has provided great insight into the issue. My own opinion is that universal coverage just makes plain sense. Although not perfect, it would be way more cost effective and efficient than our current system. Also, the average American who is covered by insurance wouldn't have to worry about paying obscene copays and deductions, nor would they have to worry about being denied treatment. I wouldn't mind at all paying more taxes for such a system.
Additionally, budding entrepreneurs could start their own company without worrying about losing healthcare coverage. This is a very pro-capitalist feature.
Anyone else wanting to change jobs wouldn't worry about losing healthcare coverage, either.
First, we need tort reform to reduce the massive inflation it causes to health care costs. Between malpractice insurance, uneeded tests (ordered to legally cover the docs butt), and meds overpriced for the same reason - health care in America costs way more than it should.
Fix this first, then the cost of adopting any new plan to extend coverage becomes much easier to pass through Congress.
Additionally, budding entrepreneurs could start their own company without worrying about losing healthcare coverage. This is a very pro-capitalist feature.
Anyone else wanting to change jobs wouldn't worry about losing healthcare coverage, either.
Exactly! The only reason the US has employer-based health care coverage is because of a fluke of history (i.e., WWII-era wage controls).
I live in Canada and really want to move to the us but this is the only thing holding me back at this point
besides all the companies denying care etc our heath care system is just cheaper
we have about 2-5 percent admin cost and i think i heard a radio show on oprah xm say yours is about 20percent
thats alot of rich ceo's getting that way off the backs of people - like you paying a lot every month.
and even if you pay its not gauranteed the company will honor thier commitment- say you dont really need the surgery, medication etc
EWhen ever i think of health care in the us i think of the movie where the man had to take over the hospital to get his son surgery- they basically told him becose he couldnt pay for surgery to take his son home to die
that is 100 perecnt wrong and shameful
First, we need tort reform to reduce the massive inflation it causes to health care costs. Between malpractice insurance, uneeded tests (ordered to legally cover the docs butt), and meds overpriced for the same reason - health care in America costs way more than it should.
Excellent point. Shakespeare may have been on the right track when he wrote in Henry VI, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
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What do you call social-security?? Public transportation? Public schools? Is this socialism too????
Yet another excellent point! Yes, these are examples (in varying degree) of Socialism, particularly those instances that involve the Federal government.
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The Constitution also doesn't say that the government has to provide money for schools. Should we stop doing that?
Actually, yes, at least on a Federal level. The Federal government has no Consitutional authority to administer, regulate, or otherwise interfere with the nation's educational system. This should be completely administered by state and local entities. The Federal Dept. of Education should never have been created. Four words say it all: "No Child Left Behind".
The Federal government has a limited number of specified powers, including the right to levy taxes, declare war, and regulate interstate and foreign commerce. Establishing a Nanny state that cares for you from cradle to grave isn't one of them.
Excellent point. Shakespeare may have been on the right track when he wrote in Henry VI, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
Yet another excellent point! Yes, these are examples (in varying degree) of Socialism, particularly those instances that involve the Federal government.
Actually, yes, at least on a Federal level. The Federal government has no Consitutional authority to administer, regulate, or otherwise interfere with the nation's educational system. This should be completely administered by state and local entities. The Federal Dept. of Education should never have been created. Four words say it all: "No Child Left Behind".
The Federal government has a limited number of specified powers, including the right to levy taxes, declare war, and regulate interstate and foreign commerce. Establishing a Nanny state that cares for you from cradle to grave isn't one of them.
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Well said! I've got other irons in the fire at the moment, so can't really wade into this one. And, to be truthful, don't know a whole lot about it all. BUT...I notice that most of those who advocate socialized health care don't seem to know or care a fidlers damn about something that even someone so ignorant of economics as I am, understands. Which is, that "costs" are not something that can be reduced. Yes, the PRICE can be lowered for a service, but the cost behind it can't be. Somehow or another, that cost will translate into a higher price somewhere else.
Well if there are unnessesary "costs" going to pay insurance companies directors, ceos over inlfated salaries- this is a cost that can be decreased and not go somewhere else
also you wont have shareholder of the company expecting to get dividends paid to them so there is another cost that would disapear and not just be shuffled to somewhere else
Health care is a right
not a privilage
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