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Judging by some of the other threads started by the OP he strongly desires to save all our souls by having the government enforce the dictates of the Roman Catholic Church. He believes that is the only way to salvation and salvation is the only thing that is important.
I am not a Catholic and prefer to keep my politics in the secular and my religion in the sacred.
You may not be Catholic but when one segment of society is ignored then it is really easy to ignore another one.
By the way Obama's spiritual adviser teaches salvation history. Look it up---only way you can be saved is if you save me. That is being done now by making people give money, etc to the lesser in society. Obama really thinks he can save you if you give what you earn to others. If you don't he will force you to do it.
This is not the idea of the Catholic church on salvation. One gains their salvation on their own merits by giving freely---not by being coursed. Talk about liberties being stripped from us.
I don't belong to Obama's church and he can't make me join. I don't like that idea about salvation since it isn't true.
What exactly is God's territory? And why doesn't God himself make it known to us? Pretty unconvincing that anything could be attributed to God's doing when he behaves like an absentee landlord.
You never heard of the bible???
God is right here with us. We are the ones who are ignoring Him.
God is right here with us. We are the ones who are ignoring Him.
What is your point? Nobody, not even devout Christians claim that god physically wrote the bible. It is a book written by men, it is only a sign of the divine if you believe the fairy tales contained within.
What is your point? Nobody, not even devout Christians claim that god physically wrote the bible. It is a book written by men, it is only a sign of the divine if you believe the fairy tales contained within.
Written by man INSPIRED by God. God is the real author. You don't have to believe it but don't stomp on people who do.
The social issues trump everything. When the Nazis are loading the Jews onto trains headed for concentration camps, it is no time to campaign on a platform of making the trains run on time. We abort 1.2 million babies every year in this country. And you want to quibble over tax cuts?
I hate to bust your bubble, but Roe v. Wade is not going to be overturned no matter who is president. It's been 39 years, perhaps you ought to get used to it, and consider other pro-life alternatives like promoting adoption?
I thought that is what I said. We can't buy it so why does Obama think we can?
Stillkit means to say that "giving freely" in exchange for salvation is akin to buying salvation. And he's right, the Catholic Church does not teach that we can be saved by our own merits. The Church condemned this idea at the Council of Orange - the heresies of Pelagianism and Semi-Pelagianism.
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