Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-10-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
26,700 posts, read 41,748,461 times
Reputation: 41381

Advertisements

New alimony law is bad for women - CNN.com

Quote:
If it weren't such a dangerous bill, it might be worth only a few snarky remarks about how people are not widgets, and human relationships should not be subjected to mechanical valuation systems. But this is a bill that threatens serious consequences and will affect women in ways that transcend economic concerns.
How is this new law bad for women? I don't even think alimony should exist PERIOD.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-10-2012, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
14,076 posts, read 20,532,927 times
Reputation: 7807
Gender neutral alimony! What a concept!

I love it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
3,997 posts, read 4,143,759 times
Reputation: 2677
Gender neutral alimony.. okay. But I still believe you have to decide most alimony on a case by case basis. I know a couple, who were married for 30+ years. She had put her whole life on hold for his career. Raised the children, basically by herself, because of his work hours. And other than the financial support, yes which he earned 100%, he contributed nothing else to the marriage. Thirty years later he decides that its time to take a young, young, mistress, and then eventually walk out leaving the soon to be 50 year old ex wife holding the bag. Why? Because he needs to "find himself?" Yea, I know you guys will be saying, "Lucky devil". But I saw the devastation that this man caused in his wake. It turned out this woman got 5 years of alimony. Unable to get a decent job, she's barely making ends meet, and to this day is still struggling to pay off the debt this loser left her with. He got off too easy, now somewhere off with his young new wife, while the ex wife will still be a greeter at Walmart when she's in her 70's. And this behavior is okay?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
14,076 posts, read 20,532,927 times
Reputation: 7807
Quote:
Originally Posted by aus10 View Post
Gender neutral alimony.. okay. But I still believe you have to decide most alimony on a case by case basis. I know a couple, who were married for 30+ years. She had put her whole life on hold for his career. Raised the children, basically by herself, because of his work hours. And other than the financial support, yes which he earned 100%, he contributed nothing else to the marriage. Thirty years later he decides that its time to take a young, young, mistress, and then eventually walk out leaving the soon to be 50 year old ex wife holding the bag. Why? Because he needs to "find himself?" Yea, I know you guys will be saying, "Lucky devil". But I saw the devastation that this man caused in his wake. It turned out this woman got 5 years of alimony. Unable to get a decent job, she's barely making ends meet, and to this day is still struggling to pay off the debt this loser left her with. He got off too easy, now somewhere off with his young new wife, while the ex wife will still be a greeter at Walmart when she's in her 70's. And this behavior is okay?
For every incident you can quote like that one, I can quote another where the wife left the husband with a house full of kids. Is he not deserving of the same support a woman deserves in a similar situation?

Why, or why not?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
3,997 posts, read 4,143,759 times
Reputation: 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by stillkit View Post
For every incident you can quote like that one, I can quote another where the wife left the husband with a house full of kids. Is he not deserving of the same support a woman deserves in a similar situation?

Why, or why not?

He is just every bit as deserving... Didn't you read the first four words of my post? And I would call a woman who walked out on her marriage after 30 years the same loser... There has to be some common sense here... and trying to tie all marriages into a neat little packages based on time doesn't quite cut it either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
1,161 posts, read 1,859,623 times
Reputation: 1521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alanboy395 View Post
New alimony law is bad for women - CNN.com



How is this new law bad for women? I don't even think alimony should exist PERIOD.
sarcasm alert:

Didn't you realize it's only "equality" when it favors the Woman???

sarcasm off:


[MOD CUT/off topic]

Last edited by Ibginnie; 03-23-2012 at 05:08 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 08:29 AM
 
29,407 posts, read 22,009,955 times
Reputation: 5455
Quote:
Originally Posted by stillkit View Post
For every incident you can quote like that one, I can quote another where the wife left the husband with a house full of kids. Is he not deserving of the same support a woman deserves in a similar situation?

Why, or why not?
I agree with child support but once the kids are on their one why should anybody be forced by the state to pay somebody else money because they choose not to live with each other anymore??? That is nonsense IMO. Go get a job.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
4,866 posts, read 5,679,379 times
Reputation: 3786
Do away with alimony.

I would be embarrassed to live off my ex husband after the marriage ended.

Get a frickin job! It is not someone else's responsibility to support your behind.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 08:45 AM
 
12,905 posts, read 15,662,473 times
Reputation: 9394
I don't agree that alimony should be ended. Although, as most people work, it will end.

If you are male or female and, within the marriage, decide that one of you will forgo your career to stay home with the kids and you do so for many years, you have pretty much lost, forever, the earning potential you could have had if you stayed in the job market. This is not about women. It protects both marriage partners.

I only know one person receiving alimony. A male.

He and his wife both worked full time. She is a partner in a prestigious accounting firm downtown. He was a contractor for the government. After child number three, they decided it was better for the family for one of them to stay home. Since he made far less than she did, he was the one. He opted out of his career and has stayed home with the kids. The youngest one is now in elementary school. She has left him for another man. The economy has tanked, he *is* working but he still has not come close to what he would have made if he stayed in his old job (and his old job has been filled--it still there). So, he was awarded alimony and that is reviewed by the courts on an annual basis.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
3,997 posts, read 4,143,759 times
Reputation: 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by KUchief25 View Post
I agree with child support but once the kids are on their one why should anybody be forced by the state to pay somebody else money because they choose not to live with each other anymore??? That is nonsense IMO. Go get a job.

I agree...get a job... but how does one spouse (either male or female) have a chance at succeeding with a new career after spending years supporting the more successful spouse? You make it sound like for the past 30 years they were sitting on their ass eating bon-bons and watching soap operas. While many of these other spouses may have held jobs outside the home too, their biggest priorities were their homes and families. And as such doesn't that account for something? Sure.. the marriage had problems, what marriage doesn't... and if one wants a divorce.. no problem. But to say that a person should be able to walk out of a marriage (specifically a long term marriage) and leave the other in a position of destitution show's a complete and total lack of character and ethics... I'm as big a proponent of responsibility as you are... in my example above.. there was absolutely nothing responsible about the man's behavior, whereas the woman has shown nothing but great responsibility.

I guess the answers to this topic will show a lot about character won't it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:06 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top