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Do you really think the size of the device matters at all? Seriously, that's what you think people are objecting to?
Some of them do or at least they are using it as an excuse not to have one. One person I know of said she could hardly walk the next day. Really? I had one of those internal ultrasounds done for a female problem I had and I didn't find it uncomfortable at all and it didn't appear to be any bigger than a tampon. Maybe they come in different sizes? Oh dear, will that be considred to be crude humor again?
I suggest you never go to a comedy club then. The humor they use in them is a lot more racier than that remark was. All of a sudden pro-choicers have turned prudish? Kind of a contradiction in terms, isn't it?
So you put your big girl pants on when you go to a comedy club, but take them off to post on City-Data?
Sorry, I wouldn't even care about remarks like this, except you spend an inordinate amount of time around here complaining about how you're insulted, offended and how liberals are just a bunch of meanies to you.
I suggest you never go to a comedy club then. The humor they use in them is a lot more racier than that remark was. All of a sudden pro-choicers have turned prudish? Kind of a contradiction in terms, isn't it?
2. They think women are nothing but cattle used for breeding purposes and are not supposed to enjoy sex( like Somalians who sexually assault their women by removing the clitoris.)
3. because if they ever do have sex the woman never comes back for seconds....it was too disappointing.
4. That's why some anti-choicers think abortion is OK if the woman is raped, if she didn't enjoy it then THAT abortion is different somehow.
5. conservatives seem to enjoy FORCE...and many women are not into it...
What a ridiculous smear of conservative Americans. I am no fan of Santorum but he has several children. Was it by immaculate conception because accoding to you conservatives get no sex?
Contrary to your lies, most conservatives don't treat their women in the way you describe either. But because you don't like their pro-life stance just smear away even if it's not true, right?
I know someone who just had one and they said the same thing about the size.
I JUST HAD ONE. I HELD IT IN MY HAND. For goodness' sakes, will you take someone's first person word for it. Arguing over the actual device is just disingenuous in the extreme.
Please give me one good reason why the use of this device is being promoted over the use of abdominal ultrasound? I had a baby 5 years ago and they didn't find it necessary to use this torturous thing for to make sure a fetus that was wanted was ok, so why use it to try and talk someone out of terminating, if not to make the entire experience even more awful than it already is?
Here's a link to the actual device, I won't post the picture because I'm sure diagrams of women's reproductive systems will give some people the vapors.
You don't know much about sonograms, do you? it fits the legal definition of rape.
A medical device is a rape device? Pardon me while I howl in laughter! How do they do an abortion of they don't use a medical device that probe the vagina? FYI, I have had one of those internal sonograms and I never once felt violated. What a perverted thought! I guess every woman gets raped when she has her annual pap test then?
A medical device is a rape device? Pardon me while I howl in laughter! How do they do an abortion of they don't use a medical device that probe the vagina? FYI, I have had one of those internal sonograms and I never once felt violated. What a perverted thought! I guess every woman gets raped when she has her annual pap test then?
You've had one, but you still insist it's the size of a tampon? Did you look at the link I provided?
Of course, if you did have one, it wasn't because you were forced to have it.
A medical device is a rape device? Pardon me while I howl in laughter! How do they do an abortion of they don't use a medical device that probe the vagina? FYI, I have had one of those internal sonograms and I never once felt violated. What a perverted thought! I guess every woman gets raped when she has her annual pap test then?
The Justice Department defines rape as, "penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim,"
So the Justice Department definition is just a perverted thought?
Plain and simple. If it's not medically necessary and the woman doesn't want it, it is rape. Regardless of the size.
So you put your big girl pants on when you go to a comedy club, but take them off to post on City-Data?
Sorry, I wouldn't even care about remarks like this, except you spend an inordinate amount of time around here complaining about how you're insulted, offended and how liberals are just a bunch of meanies to you.
What? Don't get you first remark at all. As I said, don't be insulting and I won't complain about it. It's' really that simple. What's wrong with civil debate? Those who have to resort to insults know they have lost the debate and never had an argument in the first place.
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