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Old 03-23-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Originally Posted by Jaggy001 View Post
If you initiate a confrontation then I don't think you have the right to claim self defense.
Not necessarily, I don't know what leeway is given to a patrolling block watch captain. Maybe he has the right to ask what Travon was doing in the area, maybe Travon got belligerent and things escalated.

 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider275452 View Post
I think it was more the police having problems with criminal blacks. Some how I think you would be more prone to believe the black cop. I see it in this thread, blacks giving blacks the hi five evry time a comment is made they agree with. Nice brotherhood you have here.
You really don't know me hun. I have no issue with white people. In fact, genetically, I am as white as I am black and know exactly where my white ancestors came from. I have enough white relatives who took an active role in raising me to definitely not to have an issue with white people. That didn't stop a couple of people calling me a n*gger though. I do have issues with racism and racists, especially when it is institutional.

It is you who has the issue with race and you who makes assumptions based on race. It is you who has an issue with whether or not you trust or believe someone based on their skin color, not me. When you agree with other white people in a forum, what do you call that? Is that brotherhood? Personally I have no issues with you agreeing with white people. Obviously you have some irrational fear and stereotypes about blacks. By the way, LML isn't black.

As for the Sanford PD:

History of racial tension for Fla. city and blacks - Nation Wires - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/23/2709228/history-of-racial-tension-for.html - broken link)

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SANFORD, Fla. -- Before the charges that police botched the investigation of the shooting of an unarmed black teen, there were complaints that police went easy on an officer's son who beat a black homeless man, or that police pull over black kids for wearing the wrong color hat because they suspect gang associations.
I didn't know there was a law against being homeless or wearing hats with certain colors.

Last edited by Factsplease; 03-23-2012 at 08:54 AM..
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I think others have answered the first question already (thanks LML and Evanstar). To answer your second question, if they were black and did the same thing, I would not believe them. If everything here was reversed and the person killed were white and the police department were mostly black and had a history if issues with whites, would you believe them?

He still would have been arrested
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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The combatants were girls, of the same age, of the same size. In this case, Zimmerman was a decade older and 100 lbs. heavier. Trayvon was no threat - until Zimmerman escalated the confrontation.
So an athletic 150lb 6'3 17 year old has NO advantage over a fat 250lb 28 year old?

And I love how people exaggerate and stick to the "140 lbs" .... There is NO WAY he was 6'3 @ 140. I refuse to believe that..


Let's see some of his RECENT pics..

The kid played varsity football... Here is a news flash..... There are 250 lb kids playing varsity football, pretty sure Trayvon ran away from a few of them... Pretty sure he took a few tackles from a few of them..
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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who cares if the kid was big and kicked the killers ass. it's irelavent since Zimmerman pursued him...
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: southern california
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this reminds me so much of the OJ demonstrations and rallys. does not matter whats happens???? its how u feel that counts.????
anybody that can google can see the truth on this one.
we need a trial not a lych mob.
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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So an athletic 150lb 6'3 17 year old has NO advantage over a fat 250lb 28 year old?
He shouldn't.
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And I love how people exaggerate and stick to the "140 lbs" .... There is NO WAY he was 6'3 @ 140. I refuse to believe that..
140, 150. What's 10 pounds?

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Let's see some of his RECENT pics..

The kid played varsity football... Here is a news flash..... There are 250 lb kids playing varsity football, pretty sure Trayvon ran away from a few of them... Pretty sure he took a few tackles from a few of them..
Right....which is why I don't see him as a threat. In fact, unless they're precocious XYY genetic freaks, I don't see any high school football players as threats.
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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95% of black voters voted for him. I think that pretty clearly constitutes a "team."
90% of the voters usually vote dem.Not david Duke`s party.
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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Debunked by whom - Stormfront?

No I don't have audio but apparently a fair number of sources do, and even if he didn't say the word 'coon', so what...almost every call is the same.
Link to one legitimate source that says he used that word. Every source I've seen says that you can't make out what he says. When truth is on your side, don't sully your argument by embellishing.
 
Old 03-23-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Not likely, not something that warrants a comment from the president.

It will get one from the Community-Organizer-In-Chief.
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