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Of course! Any worker who doesn't have to worry about being fired or laid-off has no incentive to do a good job. And we all know that it's nearly impossible to get rid of any government worker...no matter what they do! Their income isn't tied to the job they do....even if their department (company) is running at a loss and is totally ineffective, they still get their paycheck!
That's nonsense. Most people want to feel useful, so they'll usually try to do a good job. Cracking the whip at people only fosters an adversarial work environment where people do only just enough to not get into trouble, and causes terrible health effects on employees due to living in stress and fear like that.
Living in the Baltimore/Washington corridor, I know quite a few people who are Federal Government employees. The recurring theme I hear from them is that in any given office of 8 people, 1 will do most of the work, while the others spend their time trying to avoid work, filing complaints, "working" from home, etc.
My sister, while not a government employee, was hired as a contractor to oversee the software development of a very large, very visible Federal Government website and back end. She has spent the majority of her career in the commercial world, so she was totally unprepared for the dumpster fire that is the federal government. After 1 week, she came home from work practically in tears at the incredible lack of initiative shown by many Federal employees and the lengths they would go to in order to avoid doing any actual work.
Living in the Baltimore/Washington corridor, I know quite a few people who are Federal Government employees. The recurring theme I hear from them is that in any given office of 8 people, 1 will do most of the work, while the others spend their time trying to avoid work, filing complaints, "working" from home, etc.
My sister, while not a government employee, was hired as a contractor to oversee the software development of a very large, very visible Federal Government website and back end. She has spent the majority of her career in the commercial world, so she was totally unprepared for the dumpster fire that is the federal government. After 1 week, she came home from work practically in tears at the incredible lack of initiative shown by many Federal employees and the lengths they would go to in order to avoid doing any actual work.
It is the contractors who are costly, not federal employees. Contractors cost taxpayers way more money to employ in the same positions. I can only speak to the departments our family works in: none of us ever telework and we are actually in need of QUALIFIED people.
I invite anyone who thinks this is a grand way to live to go to USAJOBS and apply today! There are thousands of openings- if you are experienced, can pass background and credit check, and have the proper education level.
Federal workers are no different than those in the private sector, the only difference is, federal workers salaries are usually higher.
That is another general falsehood. Contractors are well-paid. Most in professional federal positions requiring advanced degrees would make more on the outside- it just happens that for some there are no comparable jobs that exist
I invite anyone who thinks this is a grand way to live to go to USAJOBS and apply today! There are thousands of openings- if you are experienced, can pass background and credit check, and have the proper education level.
Great point, thousands of federal jobs all over the country. Do you measure up? Then apply!
That is another general falsehood. Contractors are well-paid. Most in professional federal positions requiring advanced degrees would make more on the outside- it just happens that for some there are no comparable jobs that exist
Reading is fundamental,the key word was usually!
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Originally Posted by tillman7
Federal workers are no different than those in the private sector, the only difference is, federal workers salaries are usually higher.
Federal workers are no different than those in the private sector, the only difference is, federal workers salaries are usually higher.
I disagree. I have friends who've work in both, and they uniformly agree that there are a lot more low performers in the government ranks.
Higher salary? No. I'm a software engineer working near Baltimore. I have a good friend who graduated about the same time I did and works for the federal government in Washington D.C. (a more expensive job market). I make around $60K-70K more per year more than he does and he's much smarter than I am. Even worse, he's at the top of the GS-15 pay scale, including locality pay. In fact, I make more than the top Senior Executive Service pay rate. My salary (and many of my coworkers) are higher than that of the Vice President of the US.
However, when you factor in benefits/retirement, Federal employees definitely come out ahead.
Nah, I used to work with US govt scientists. The one manager works 7 days a week and had something like over 450 hours of uncompensated overtime at the end of the year.
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