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All I did was agree with the OPs contention that overly worried parents and their overuse of hand sanitizer and sterilizing kids is bad.
Sorry, I forgot that quoting someone on CD generally means you disagree with them.
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
What disturbs me most are the number of people (men in my case) who walk out of the bathroom without washing their hands. It happens ALL the time. By my guesstimation and random observation, i'd say 3 out of 10 men.
After I wash my hands, I use the paper towel to touch the door handle. If there's no trash can nearby the door, the paper towel goes on the floor. Not my problem. I'm not touching other people's parts. Those are not germs that children should be exposed to. Otherwise, i'm all for letting Little Jimmy get dirty.
The University of Colorado did a study about this issue, and I forget the exact number, but men were much less likely than women to wash their hands after using the bathroom. I think your estimate is close to the results of the study. I don't really want to take the time to look it up right now.
There have been a lot of posts on this thread about vaccines, which are technically off topic. However, I never pass up a chance to share my knowledge about immunizations, gained from many years in the immunization field.
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Originally Posted by MJJersey
I've brought this up several times on here and people seem to think that vaccines are like taking a vitamin to prevent death. The chicken pox vaccine doesn't work very well and kids who got the vaccine and it didn't work or kids who could not get the vaccine were not exposed, and both of them develop shingles later in life. Shingles is very dangerous. So parents started letting their kids get chickenpox naturally again and the media made a big stink about it. Vaccines are invasive, that's a fact. And I think vaccines, like you said, should only be used when really necessary.
I often wonder if the flu was caused by a bacteria that changed slightly every year, would doctors recommend that everyone in the country take antibiotics for four months for a 60-70 percent chance of not getting the flu? My guess is that they would not, and that people would not want to do this, but we do it with a vaccine because we have been led to the false belief that a vaccination is a simple procedure with no risks or side effects. The flu vaccine was originally developed specifically for people with poor immune systems and was originally not recommended for healthy people.
The chickenpox vaccine is effective in a two dose series. Chickenpox vaccine is actually thought to prevent shingles, b/c the virus from the vaccine clears out of the body faster than the virus from the disease. The antibodies (the protective part) remain. Anyone who has had chickenpox disease can get shingles.
Influenza vaccine is not an anti-viral medication. That is a different issue altogether. A nurse should know that, or not be talking about immunizations.
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Originally Posted by skyegirl
And don't forget, Mercury.
There has been no mercury in routine childhood vaccines since 2001, 11 years now. Some vaccines NEVER had any mercury in them, e.g. measles, mumps, rubella.
When kids you bet we drank right from the water hose and got right back on our bikes and skateboards. Was a waste of precious time to go into the house for just water, and we didn't carry around water bottles.
We also drank from each other's drink at times just like we passed that dang joint around once in high school, and no am not advocating the use of weed. Just tellin it like it was.
I've brought this up several times on here and people seem to think that vaccines are like taking a vitamin to prevent death. The chicken pox vaccine doesn't work very well and kids who got the vaccine and it didn't work or kids who could not get the vaccine were not exposed, and both of them develop shingles later in life. Shingles is very dangerous. So parents started letting their kids get chickenpox naturally again and the media made a big stink about it. Vaccines are invasive, that's a fact. And I think vaccines, like you said, should only be used when really necessary.
I often wonder if the flu was caused by a bacteria that changed slightly every year, would doctors recommend that everyone in the country take antibiotics for four months for a 60-70 percent chance of not getting the flu? My guess is that they would not, and that people would not want to do this, but we do it with a vaccine because we have been led to the false belief that a vaccination is a simple procedure with no risks or side effects. The flu vaccine was originally developed specifically for people with poor immune systems and was originally not recommended for healthy people.
The folks in my family that don't get shots are healthier than the ones that do. One sis recalls her son getting very ill when a baby and having had his shots. He is a cancer survivor with part of his brain removed because of Grand Mal Seizures.
The shots are pushed in nutty ways. I had a nurse pushing the tetanus shot when I had cut my hand in very oxygenated dishwater! Clue....oxygen DESTROYS tetanus, but how many laypersons even know this?
Tetanus is a bacterium. How can that shot work when our bodies cannot make immunity to it naturally?! Seems we'd have an immunization for UTIs if immunity could really be created, but we gals can get repeat UTI.
I am thankful that I had both measles instead of the shot for them. I have lifelong immunity. How many gals of child-bearing age had the MMR shots and no longer have immunity IF they even had it with the shots?
It's a fact that kids raised in households with pets have lower prevalence and incidence of asthma and allergies. In fact, the kids who were raised on farms with farm animals had the lowest rates of those maladies of all other groups.
Guess, this is why my kids were rarely sick. I didn't know this, another good reason to have pets.
Don't forget there's the same amount or more mercury in mother's milk and good old baby formula than in a vaccine. To protect them, Please don't use these products. Think of the children, America.
If they are thirsty give them distilled water. Tap water isn't safe, either. It's been found to have mercury in it.
Also, these
Quaker Oatmeal to Go bars
Jack Daniel's Barbecue Sauce
Hershey's Chocolate Syrup
Kraft Original Barbecue Sauce
Nutri-Grain Strawberry Cereal Bars
Manwich Gold Sloppy Joe
Market Pantry Grape Jelly
Smucker's Strawberry Jelly
Pop-Tarts Frosted Blueberry
Hunt's Tomato Ketchup
Wish-Bone Western Sweet & Smooth Dressing
Coca-Cola Classic: no mercury found on a second test
Yoplait Strawberry Yogurt
Minute Maid Berry Punch
Yoo-hoo Chocolate Drink Nesquik Chocolate Milk
Kemps Fat Free Chocolate Milk
Actually, there's a lot of mercury in a lot of foods. It's kind of hard to figure out which ones are "safe" since sometimes they have it, and sometimes they don't. Milk, eggs, you name it. Probably better just to not eat...anything.
Man, I loved frosted blueberry pop tarts, too.
Oh please!!!!! Not Nesquick Chocolate Milk
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Originally Posted by stan4
The dirtiest place is your mouth...I demand chlorhexadine or betadine preps on everyone I kiss!
Boy, this must make an interesting first date/impression
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