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Old 04-16-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I hope Mitt Romney is elected and abolishes HUD. Section 8 is an awful program and needs to be dismantled. Nice areas are turning into slums because of Section 8 residents not to mention crime and school quality deteriorates.

Of course Obama made things worse.

James Bovard: Raising Hell in Subsidized Housing - WSJ.com

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But the dispersal of public housing residents to quieter neighborhoods has failed to weed out the criminal element that made life miserable for most residents of the projects. "Homicide was simply moved to a new location, not eliminated," concluded University of Louisville criminologist Geetha Suresh in a 2009 article in Homicide Studies. In Louisville, Memphis, and other cities, violent crime skyrocketed in neighborhoods where Section 8 recipients resettled.

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Old 04-16-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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Since Mitt refuses to name the agencies he plans to cut, it is only left to speculation.

So it was Obama and not the recession that created more poor people?

It's comical for Romney to play this game after being on record dinging Obama about lack of transparency.

All for naught anyway...no way Romney wins, and the GOP has to smile with this frosted dog turd and call it a cupcake for the next 6 months.

Priceless.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:34 PM
 
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Only the disabled and elderly should get permanent support on social programs.

Non-citizen permanent residents on the dole should be removed and probably asked to vacate the country if they can't support themselves.

People using the system for more than a few months for more than some food stamps need to go to work and pay taxes.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Too bad that's a subscription-only article, I'd like to read the whole thing. Section 8 is a freakin mess.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Since Mitt refuses to name the agencies he plans to cut, it is only left to speculation.

So it was Obama and not the recession that created more poor people?

It's comical for Romney to play this game after being on record dinging Obama about lack of transparency.

All for naught anyway...no way Romney wins, and the GOP has to smile with this frosted dog turd and call it a cupcake for the next 6 months.

Priceless.
Read the article. His policies have made policing bothersome HUD residents virtually impossible. Since HUD recipients are disproportionately Black and Hispanic and action against them is denounced as racist never mind some of the biggest critics of Section 8 are Black middle class residents.

Oh not a big fan of polls so early but check this out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1062583
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Role bad that's a subscription-only article, I'd like to read the whole thing. Section 8 is a freakin mess.
Copy the title and paste it into google, click on the first link to the article you see to the WSJ site. You should be able to get a free pass and read the entire article.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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I doubt Romney would end HUD. He has no pair big enough. Romney saying he's going to cut departments is like Gingrich pledging to America in his "contract" that the DOE will be cut. Not gonna happen
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Only the disabled and elderly should get permanent support on social programs.

Non-citizen permanent residents on the dole should be removed and probably asked to vacate the country if they can't support themselves.

People using the system for more than a few months for more than some food stamps need to go to work and pay taxes.
There are some people who do work, make a living, maybe not as rich as they would like but make a living, and they still, somehow, qualify for Section 8.

Many years ago, when I lived in Seattle, I started dating this guy. Time wore on, I eventually made my first visit to his apartment building. Wow, it was new, nothing fancy but it was new, decent, better than my own.

More time wore on and I found out, it was SECTION 8 HOUSING! He worked for fricken Amazon.com making decent enough money that he did not NEED Section 8 housing.

It's not just people who don't want to work, it's also people who do work but scam the system.

(P.S. Yep, it pissed me off so bad, that was the end of that relationship.)
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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Public housing originally had MINIMUM income requirements which kept out the welfare class, until "welfare rights" activists got Congress to open the floodgates in 1969.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I'm pretty sure there are plenty of uber wealthy slum landlords that would object to that. You might want to get rid of any REITs you might have, their NAV will fall off a cliff if mittens gets his way.
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