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No one will ever truly know what happened in those moments since one of the 2 is dead. Did Trayvon feel his life was threatened by Zimmerman and therefore did what he had to do to defend himself. We will never know that will we.
Honestly, you're right and we don't know. And the situation changed very quickly. But if your scenario is correct and Trayvon felt that his life was in danger...why didn't he simply go inside his house? Again...he was within about 200 feet of his house when Zimmerman looses sight of him. And Zimmerman remains on the phone for another ~ 1 1/2 minutes. 1 1/2 minutes (actually quite a bit more before they come in contact), a 17 year old athlete (former football player) and 200 feet.... It doesn't add up to me that he was in fear for his life.
My theory is that he was annoyed that someone was following him. I don't really blame him. I suspect that he approached Zimmerman and confronted him verbally. The timeline and locations as identified by witnesses and evidence support that, but there are other possibilities as well. I make no guess as to who threw the first punch. It is possible that Martin saw the gun, lunged and fought for it. But if he were desperately fighting for a gun, why did he take his hand(s) off it and start beating Z in the face (per the broken nose)? If Zimmerman really just went out to kill a black man, why did he let himself get hit before shooting? Given that he had a gun, it would be REALLY dangereous to let M get within arms length. Or did they really have a fight that lasted for some minute or two (per the 911 calls and witness reports), during which time Zimmerman was able to draw his concealled handgun and fire? IF there were powder burns, indicating that the shot came from very close range, this is at least possible.
If there is evidence that the shot was fired from a distance as some report...self defense is a much tougher claim. It's pretty clear that neither were saints and both had a checkered past. Zimmerman obviously no mental giant. Every concealed carry class teaches the same thing-don't make any kind of statement to the police without your attorney present.
LOL this is just becoming pathetic, so in order for someone to defend themselves they have to be able to gauge whether a wound is fatal enough and not start the fight? However starting the fight does not mean who hits who first but who sets the events in motion. I'm so glad folks like you don't write the law.
You too are saying the only one with rights is the person with a gun?
Autopsy results reportedly indicate that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died, which could support George Zimmerman’s claim that the unarmed teenager assaulted him before he was fatally shot.
Another reason to WAIT UNTIL THE FACTS ARE IN until we condemn someone....
Let me ask you something. If you happened to be carrying a firearm...just how much would you let someone beat you before defending yourself? Would you have been as tolerant as Zimmerman? Letting someone pound you in the face, breaking your nose. Blackening both eyes. Pounding your head into the concrete, gashing your head. Would you be thinking, "it's ok, he's not REALLY hurting me...I'll just wait till he cracks my skull open"? Or would you do SOMETHING to stop the violent attack while you still could? How about if it was a loved one, a spouse or child? Would you let a criminal split their skull before you shot?
Evidently according to the Calipoppy crowd since Zimmerman "started the fight" he now must resign himself to death. Since he is now not allowed to stop Trayvon from beating him.
This highlights the negative thought processes that pervade in the African American community. Everything is someone else's fault, never take responsibility.
In order to reach Calipoppy's absurd conclusion you would have to accept that Trayvon was justified in attacking Zimmerman. Evidently observing someone from a distance is now cause enough to beat them.
If Trayvon simply kept his hands to himself, he would be alive. It is that fact that will prevent the prosecution from making any substantive case against him.
You don't really understand what spin means, do you? Again, don't quit your day job to try a career in the law.
Not trying to be a lawyer but I think I'm doing a pretty good job nonetheless. My analysis has consistently been shown to be correct. Where yours, well has not. You're on the losing side, a biased side. I'm on the side of the truth. Join us it's okay.
George Zimmerman started the fight knowing that he could also mortally end that fight when he started to lose. This the sign of a true coward. He should have let the real law enforcement handle the situation if he was suspicious instead of being judge, jury and executioner to an innocent child who was minding his own business.
Again, had GZ done this to a White child the sentiments would be quite different.
In most of your comments you demonstrate the racist proposition rush to judgement of things you presuppose as facts that have never been demonstrated outside the realm of imagination
So let me understand? If I get behind you in the mall on a given day and we happen to be on the same path of visiting the same stores by coincidence and by coincidence we leave at the same time and by coincidence we are parked side by side and return to our cars at the same time I had best expect you to turn around jump be to the ground and begin pounding me? That evidently is what I should now expect or always should have expected of a white hating pinko phobic. Is this correct?
Honestly, you're right and we don't know. And the situation changed very quickly. But if your scenario is correct and Trayvon felt that his life was in danger...why didn't he simply go inside his house? Again...he was within about 200 feet of his house when Zimmerman looses sight of him. And Zimmerman remains on the phone for another ~ 1 1/2 minutes. 1 1/2 minutes (actually quite a bit more before they come in contact), a 17 year old athlete (former football player) and 200 feet.... It doesn't add up to me that he was in fear for his life..
Perhaps Trayvon was heading for his house and Zimmerman assumed Trayvon was going to break into it. The fact that Trayvon was near his home would further make it a right for Trayvon to stand his ground. Unless you think the only person with rights is the one with a gun.
Perhaps Trayvon was heading for his house and Zimmerman assumed Trayvon was going to break into it. The fact that Trayvon was near his home would further make it a right for Trayvon to stand his ground. Unless you think the only person with rights is the one with a gun.
Good God ya all!
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Typical, keep denying!
