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Old 05-04-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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Blah, blah, blah....

The whole Ayer's set of lies already failed in 2008. Why hallucinate they will work this time?
Work for what? Why are you so afraid of the truth and engage in such deceptive practices? Obama? Is this really you? Obama must be your hero, your mentor, your idol because you act IDENTICAL to him. Ideological to the max without a drop of common sense.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Blah, blah, blah....

The whole Ayer's set of lies already failed in 2008. Why hallucinate they will work this time?

What lies?
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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"Social justice generally refers to the idea of creating a society or institution that is based on the principles of equality and solidarity, that understands and values human rights, and that recognizes the dignity of every human being."

Yes, I see how that could be considered a dirty word (phrase) to your typical conservative.
Time to re-read Geoge Orwell. Have you never heard of doublespeaK? And by the way, Orwell was a socialist. But at least he had his eyes open.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Would you care to refute this part of his comments?

"...the American Empire is in decline–that economically, and politically, and in some ways culturally, that we are in decline..."
America is in decline in the same way a person whose head is being pushed under water is in decline. That is what happens when a free people is pushed down by an arrogant, bloated, corrupt and unaccountable government.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There's an awful lot of people in this thread who agree with Ayer's statement that America is in decline.

Of course, that means y'all are as inextricably linked to Ayer's now as is Obama! He just began his political career in Ayer's house. Y'all actually AGREE WITH HIM! LOL

See how easy it is to be "linked" to radicalism?
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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Blah, blah, blah....

The whole Ayer's set of lies already failed in 2008. Why hallucinate they will work this time?
What were the specific lies about Ayers you claim were told in 2008? The far left radicals in this country embrace the likes of Ayers and the revolutionary overthrow of the US Constitution and due process he espouses. There were no lies, it is just that Ayers and his radical ilk have been occupying the classrooms of this nation long enough that their followers really do believe "the means justifies the end".
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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There's an awful lot of people in this thread who agree with Ayer's statement that America is in decline.

Of course, that means y'all are as inextricably linked to Ayer's now as is Obama! He just began his political career in Ayer's house. Y'all actually AGREE WITH HIM! LOL

See how easy it is to be "linked" to radicalism?
If that is how you were taught logic in school you should ask for a refund.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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Blah, blah, blah....

The whole Ayer's set of lies already failed in 2008. Why hallucinate they will work this time?
Ayers is just telling the people what Obama's agenda is;

Put an end to capitalism

America going down into bankruptcy and 3rd world status

Weakened Military

Obama is Ayer's dream come true - This is what Ayers wanted during the 60's!

They are the best of friends (practically brothers) sitting on numerous boards together promoting the same radical tactics. Ayers received a huge grant from Obama - It is beyond dispute - Ayers was the ghost writer for obama. Nothing wrong with that one bit- So... why do they always have to lie and deceive?

Now - Two of Obama's greatest friends have been going over to Israel together to cause problems for the Jewish people. Jeremiah Wright & Bill Ayers!!
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If that is how you were taught logic in school you should ask for a refund.
Hey. That's the logic applied to Obama around here. If it's good for the goose, it should be good for the gander too, right?
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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What were the specific lies about Ayers you claim were told in 2008?
That Ayers and Obama had a close personal relationship.

That Ayers arranged to have Obama selected as Chairman of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge.

That Ayers wrote "Dreams of My father."

That Obama and Ayers share common beliefs.

How about those for starters?

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The far left radicals in this country embrace the likes of Ayers and the revolutionary overthrow of the US Constitution and due process he espouses.
Who the hell cares what far left radicals think any more than they care what far right radicals think? None of that has anything to do with Obama who, by all objective measures is a center-right politician.
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