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Old 05-15-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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The whole reason for why there is marriage, is because of children.
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Marriage is only about an institution to raise the children that we know men and women make.
Where are you even getting this information from? Where does it say in the law or any legal document anything related to this?

False. Totally and utterly false. A government is only as strong as the people they take care of.

 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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It's for the babies we know they will most likely create. there are billions of examples of this, Google it even.
Really? Provide links please...if you can.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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It's for the babies we know they will most likely create.
Please, point that out in current standing law.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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There will always be thieves, frauds and charlatans who will abuse the systems of government, we cannot condemn the entire institution of marriage, or burden the rest of married couples because of those few.

It's my opinion that you are consciously engaging in a fraud, if you are going to take advantage of the charity of others, on a pretense. I don't need your permission to see you as leaching off the rest of us. But even so, you may end up having a child anyway.
The Supreme Court doesn't consider it fraud, and their opinion is all that matters. Your ridiculous argument that non-child bearing couples are committing marriage fraud is so ridiculously stupid, it's hard to believe humans like you actually exist.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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The whole reason for why there is marriage, is because of children.
No, the whole reason why there is marriage is to provide a business arrangement to hand over female property (the wife) from father to husband.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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It's for the babies we know they will most likely create. there are billions of examples of this, Google it even.
And 90% of those babies end up in poverty and starving. Yeah, let's create more poor, hungry babies!
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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Link?

And let's be honest here, religious conservatives can buck trends. Otherwise, the Middle East would have evolved.
look at the population demographics amongst those ages and it impossible for it not to be true.

PS
changing to
being in favor of 2 members of the same sex marrying is devolving.

Obama's position DEvolved
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Yes this does happen. It's against the law (well in the military anyway) to have a fraudulent marriage just to take advantage of the benefits.


That being said, how does that translate into straight couples who marry with the intention of not having children?
It's not technically a fraud, it's just my personal view of it. The only reason we allow our government to tax us, and give benefits and such to married couples, is because of the potential children they create. I sure as hell would not approve of my hard earned money going to someone just so they can have sex together. So if people are intentionally getting married a plan to not have kids, they are gaming the system. It would be like a person accepting a government subsidy to manufacture a product, and they just keep the money and go thru the motions of a manufacturing business.

However, as I said before, they may have children anyway. Either nature found a way to thwart their contraception techniques, or their opinion on children evolved and they now want kids.
 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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look at the population demographics amongst those ages and it impossible for it not to be true.

PS
changing to
being in favor of 2 members of the same sex marrying is devolving.

Obama's position DEvolved


Oh you were serious?

 
Old 05-15-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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look at the population demographics amongst those ages and it impossible for it not to be true.

PS
changing to being in favor of 2 members of the same sex marrying is devolving.

Obama's position DEvolved
No, devolving would be preaching along these lines...

A Volkisch state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.
- Adolf Hitler
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