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Old 06-04-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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Ok you creationists, explain this using only your bible


The Vadoma people from the Zambezi. They are real and this is not a photoshop.

Explain from a creationist perspective why they only have two toes. This is the whole tribe that has these two toed feet.

I have posted this about 10+ times and so far no takers.

Evolution has an explanation that is peer reviewed, but seeing they are wrong, your turn.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:52 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Everyone is confusing the debate about the beginning of existence - i.e., Big Bang vs. God - with the debate about how existing species changed long after any initial existence catalyst.

The debate about the origin of all existence is completely fair game for God - I'm partial to it myself. But you can completely argue in favor of a God-like initial creation / design of the world and still accept evolution as the best scientifically-supported explanation for how species changed over time. Why couldn't God have created the design by which evolution works? The two are not incompatible... but you have to be willing to be a deist and drop some of your preconceptions based on literal old Biblical interpretations.

To me, the debate about creationism vs evolution is more about how / why species have changed than why anything exists in the first place.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why do you care so much what other people believe?

I believe evolution to a point. There is no such thing as spontaneous generation in science though. Something can't just be formed out of nothing. You can't create a cell, energy, human, bacteria out of nothing. The Big Bang theory doesn't explain anything really about how it happened, which is the only reason I look to science. It is as believable as god creating earth in seven days, and I don't believe either theory.
It is written, a day to God could be a thousand years.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It is written, a day to God could be a thousand years.
It is written, when creationists don't have an answer they just make stuff up.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ok you creationists, explain this using only your bible


The Vadoma people from the Zambezi. They are real and this is not a photoshop.

Explain from a creationist perspective why they only have two toes. This is the whole tribe that has these two toed feet.

I have posted this about 10+ times and so far no takers.

Evolution has an explanation that is peer reviewed, but seeing they are wrong, your turn.
This is no different than some people have freckles, or some have blonde hair. We are all wonderfully made.

God has given us rule over the planet. We sometimes play with creation to create hybrids ourselves. We are made in the image of God, meaning we have the trait to create in ourselves.

We design buildings , roads, all that we create is designed and planned. God has made a very intricate world in which we still have to try and unlock the mysteries of creation and how things work.. we try to find out how our bodies work.. we know very little about the brain but we are studying and are founding some things out. We may have to retract some of our conclusions because we keep finding out more and more and sometimes we realize we are not as smart as we thought . God is the ultimate creator.

There are creatures we are now discovering in the depths of the oceans never before seen. It is a mysterious place we are in. There are insects here that have not even been discovered yet because there are so many. So here we are still finding things out and it will be forever before we know all as God does.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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This is no different than some people have freckles, or some have blonde hair. We are all wonderfully made.

God has given us rule over the planet. We sometimes play with creation to create hybrids ourselves. We are made in the image of God, meaning we have the trait to create in ourselves.

We design buildings , roads, all that we create is designed and planned. God has made a very intricate world in which we still have to try and unlock the mysteries of creation and how things work.. we try to find out how our bodies work.. we know very little about the brain but we are studying and are founding some things out. We may have to retract some of our conclusions because we keep finding out more and more and sometimes we realize we are not as smart as we thought . God is the ultimate creator.

There are creatures we are now discovering in the depths of the oceans never before seen. It is a mysterious place we are in. There are insects here that have not even been discovered yet because there are so many. So here we are still finding things out and it will be forever before we know all as God does.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It is written, when creationists don't have an answer they just make stuff up.
No. Nothing is made up. God is God and we are simple minded people compared to his intelligence.


New International Version (©1984)
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
New Living Translation (©2007)
But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:13 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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The debate about the origin of all existence is completely fair game for God - I'm partial to it myself. But you can completely argue in favor of a God-like initial creation / design of the world and still accept evolution as the best scientifically-supported explanation for how species changed over time. Why couldn't God have created the design by which evolution works? The two are not incompatible... but you have to be willing to be a deist and drop some of your preconceptions based on literal old Biblical interpretations.
To answer your question is simple.

Evolution needs no god concept. You are merely positing theistic evolution which is a pseudo science. It is the exact same thing as irreducible complexity, both of these are mere variants of creationism. (you can look both of the underlined up)

Simply said, it is theists sicking great big yellow godunnit stickers over the real science as creationists have ZERO evidence for creation.

Now if creationists could come up with the bones of Adam and Eve well, then we would have a debate.

The church and religion has had to play catch up as no sane person buys into the myth of dustpuppies and spare ribs as the origin of mankind.

Creationists still argue against science of the 50's when we have progressed in leaps and bounds since then. Makes one wonder what some students learned back in the 50's to mid 70's.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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To answer your question is simple.

Evolution needs no god concept. You are merely positing theistic evolution which is a pseudo science. It is the exact same thing as irreducible complexity, both of these are mere variants of creationism. (you can look both of the underlined up)

Simply said, it is theists sicking great big yellow godunnit stickers over the real science as creationists have ZERO evidence for creation.

Now if creationists could come up with the bones of Adam and Eve well, then we would have a debate.

The church and religion has had to play catch up as no sane person buys into the myth of dustpuppies and spare ribs as the origin of mankind.

Creationists still argue against science of the 50's when we have progressed in leaps and bounds since then. Makes one wonder what some students learned back in the 50's to mid 70's.

Some people will never understand the awesome God who creates. We did not get here on our own. Yet in the minds of men are egos so big they renounce God and think that they are the real intelligence here.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Now if creationists could come up with the bones of Adam and Eve well, then we would have a debate.
Uh... it is evolutionists whom claim tht life existed "millions" of years a go - where is the evidence to support such a claim?

I have no reasonable theory?

Really?
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