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Old 07-10-2012, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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If a rich person makes 10% on his millions he makes millions if a poor person makes 100% on nothing he still makes nothing.
Make a few million. "Better than nothing" seems applicable.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Even Newt Gingrich, says Mitt Romney is a liar. That’s pretty bad.
So I take it the liar is only lying when you disagree with what he is saying...
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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Not true! I'm just pointing out to people who want to earn more how to get started in an inexpensive way!

It would btw make my life easier since usually we have to email and/or call people who make less money, more than people who make more money since they are the ones who always reply fast!

The people living in higher end rentals usually pay on time and that isn't just because they have better jobs.

We have changed a lot of tenants in our business by having them pay late fees and now they figured out that paying on time will save them money...it is almost like they need a parent, specially the younger generation!

I guess that not many parents in that categorie are telling their kids to pay on time...they always have excuses and feel that their excuse makes them entitled not to pay that fee...than they find out that we treat everybody the same and over time they clean up their act!

To me it is sad that nobody has been telling them things like ...pay bills on time, will save you money!

This thread is not class warfare...for that you have to be the POTUS/divider!
Forget it. That actual thing you wanted to discuss was lost after the first few posts. It is now just a rich vs poor thread like thousands of the others.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:38 PM
 
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Once I read a really good book about how to make money. One of the pieces of advice was not to waste time telling other people what they are doing wrong in order to try and help them. This especially applied to people that hated money or people with money. The OP obviously never read that book.

Unfortunately the OP chose to use the words rich and poor in his OP and it distracted people. He himself admits he is not rich. The points he made are good points and if followed you will be more successful and have more money than if you don't follow them. How could that not be true?
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:48 AM
 
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Not really. Your idea of discipline and hard work is just different.
You mean like working two jobs to get through college, and have a part-time job while finding full time work instead of relying on unemployment and paying your loans by working up to 70-80 hrs a week? Cause that's what I do and I tell you what...I still see that there are disparities between the ultra-rich and the rest of us.

I'm fine with my lot. I'm not poor and I do work hard for the little I got. However, I would be WAY worse regardless of how hard I worked if I were born extremely poor. Simply put, I would not have been able to go to a suburban school district with relatively good schools. I would not even have the little funding from my parents to help pay for college (very little, but every bit helps) and I would not have been able to crash at my parents when I did fall on hard times. When I moved, I borrowed money to help with the move from my parents.

The biggest factor really was the schooling and education. Being middle class sheltered me from that environment. I remember taking vacations with my family to Europe during the summer to see friends and family. My parents took me so I could learn manners and how to relate with the upper class. I know old money quite well. I know the mentality quite well. I mean it's normal to go sailing on Lake Geneva right? What about playing tennis in the south of France? Safari in Kenya? 5 month vacations to Europe and Africa? That is one part of my life. The other part is how I went to the inner city school my dad taught at. I also would help everyone out around the neighborhood (tutoring, mentoring). So I had a split life.

I understand the wealthy are not malicious people. However, I understand that the wealthy are simply too far removed from the poor (and even middle class, since those from the middle class that associate with them learn to adapt...not the other way). It is easy for those with money to simply say that it is about hard work...because they don't see the fact that inequalities do exist that prevents simple hard work from acting as a factor for change.

Long story short...hard work is not the only thing.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:49 AM
 
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Forget it. That actual thing you wanted to discuss was lost after the first few posts. It is now just a rich vs poor thread like thousands of the others.
It always was a rich vs. poor thread. That's the actual thing the OP wanted to discuss.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:55 AM
 
Location: 89434
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The poor can find a way to get rich. The thing is to find what works with you.
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:21 AM
 
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Once I read a really good book about how to make money. One of the pieces of advice was not to waste time telling other people what they are doing wrong in order to try and help them. This especially applied to people that hated money or people with money. The OP obviously never read that book.

Unfortunately the OP chose to use the words rich and poor in his OP and it distracted people. He himself admits he is not rich. The points he made are good points and if followed you will be more successful and have more money than if you don't follow them. How could that not be true?
The words come to me because this POTUS is using them over and over and to me he is the biggest divider....I expected him to bring the country closer but instead he did everything the opposite, now we have class warfare started by him...

All I wanted to try to bring across is that people who are rich which according to Obama is people who make over $250K, which to me is not rich but making a good living.....POTUS uses these words and I believe that people who don't have as much can easily do things to make a better life...does that mean they will immediately become rich, no but you have to start some where.

As a realtor you know which kind of people reply fast and who are hardly ever replying...usually the people with more money will reply faster...people who will not show up for appointments are overal the people with less money...
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Those who fail do so because they just are not willing to NOT fail. Refuse to fail!

Clearly people stringing together multiple minimum wage jobs and still cant afford adequate housing or food simply "arent trying".
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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It's quite clear to me the OP was intended to start a fight over two classes of people: the rich, the poor. This is really starting to get childish. Don't we have better things to do.

No we dont, income inequality is the BIGGEST issue facing the country today. Sweeping it under the rug, pretending its a non issue, or outright holding those who acknowledge it in contempt, are delusional, self serving, or both.
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