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View Poll Results: Which do you think should happen?
Marriage for all. 45 52.33%
Civil unions for all. 8 9.30%
No government recognition. 22 25.58%
Other. Please explain. 11 12.79%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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generally a pedophile is a man. So when I said a pedophile marrying a 14 year old, that is what I was talking about. Carry on.
Hey, you're the one who first specifically cite an old man and a young girl, then lied and claimed you weren't talking about such things.

It's hard to keep track of all the false claims you post, Steve. It would be so much easier if you would just say what you mean, and limit your statements to things that aren't false.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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Hey, you're the one who first specifically cite an old man and a young girl, then lied and claimed you weren't talking about such things.

It's hard to keep track of all the false claims you post, Steve. It would be so much easier if you would just say what you mean, and limit your statements to things that aren't false.
See what happens when you can't admit to not reading what I said I meant. All yhou can resort to is calling people liars etc etc. Lol, such a sad life
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: TX
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(to Green Onions) See what happens when you can't admit to not reading what I said I meant. All yhou can resort to is calling people liars etc etc. Lol, such a sad life
...Are you going to retract your argument, conceding that it's a non sequitur in which there's no reason to have faith in, or not?
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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See what happens when you can't admit to not reading what I said I meant. All yhou can resort to is calling people liars etc etc. Lol, such a sad life
You specifically cite an old man and a young girl.

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Another thing to consider is where does the homosexual marriage go. Once it is accepted, when does it stop. 65 year old man and a 13 year old girl getting married? A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old. Sandusky not getting convicted. Where does it end, where?
Equal rights? Equal liberties?
Feel free to present some actual evidence, Steve. Still waiting on that. Lots of assertions, but not a shred of evidence.

Man, the 21st Century must suck for you. When the USSC declines to grant cert this fall in Perry v. Brown and same-sex marriage becomes legal in California once again, you'll probably be furiously posting your lies. Again. And when Maine and Maryland and Washington implement their same-sex marriage laws in November, you'll probably be doing the same. Next year, Rhode Island and Illinois, and maybe New Jersey. It's coming, Steve, to every state eventually.

I wonder how much time will have to pass before you concede how wrong you are?

Of course, we both know you never will. You're not reality-based, Steve. Facts mean nothing to you.

Now, keep lying and tell us once again that you weren't talking about old men and young girls, even though your post is there for all to see. Rest assured, I'll keep posting it and pointing out your lies!
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:17 AM
 
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You specifically cite an old man and a young girl.

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Feel free to present some actual evidence, Steve. Still waiting on that. Lots of assertions, but not a shred of evidence.

Man, the 21st Century must suck for you. When the USSC declines to grant cert this fall in Perry v. Brown and same-sex marriage becomes legal in California once again, you'll probably be furiously posting your lies. Again. And when Maine and Maryland and Washington implement their same-sex marriage laws in November, you'll probably be doing the same. Next year, Rhode Island and Illinois, and maybe New Jersey. It's coming, Steve, to every state eventually.

I wonder how much time will have to pass before you concede how wrong you are?

Of course, we both know you never will. You're not reality-based, Steve. Facts mean nothing to you.

Now, keep lying and tell us once again that you weren't talking about old men and young girls, even though your post is there for all to see. Rest assured, I'll keep posting it and pointing out your lies!
WHat part about this "A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old" were you forgetting I was talking about when addressing pedophile.
I guess we have to leave this as it is as we are not communicating.
My whole point is when does it end, when does society finally just accept everything as okay. When I said an old man marrying a young girl, then after the comma I said A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old.
Is that too hard to read?
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:20 AM
 
Location: TX
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My whole point is when does it end, when does society finally just accept everything as okay.
Yes, and I've shot that "point" down. You've yet to respond to any of it, but I reminded you that we as a nation have done away with various taboos without it leading to pedophiles marrying children.

I also pointed out that we've actually been moving in the opposite direction, because traditionally, grown men did marry underage girls much more often than they do now. So you see, you've absolutely nothing to worry about there. NEXT CONCERN, please!
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:02 AM
 
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Also - what's the big deal about coercion? Why is coercion bad? Is that just your personal opinion or is it a religious thing?
Are you serious?

Coercion is forcing someone to do something you want using threats or intimidation.

If you don't understand why that is wrong, you need to be locked away.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: West Egg
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WHat part about this "A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old" were you forgetting I was talking about when addressing pedophile.
I guess we have to leave this as it is as we are not communicating.
My whole point is when does it end, when does society finally just accept everything as okay. When I said an old man marrying a young girl, then after the comma I said A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old.
Is that too hard to read?
Earth to Steve:
IT IS ALREADY LEGAL FOR A 65 YEAR OLD MAN TO MARRY A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL

YOU are the one touting the moronic logic that legalizing same-sex marriage will lead to this. Well, obviously, since it already exists as a legality than the marriage laws YOU LIKE have led to it. Well, by what you're trying to pass off as 'logic', anyway.

Still waiting for examples of your assertions, Steve. Still waiting. And I'll keep waiting, because all you have are hollow claims with nothing to back them up.

Nothing.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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WHat part about this "A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old" were you forgetting I was talking about when addressing pedophile.
I guess we have to leave this as it is as we are not communicating.
My whole point is when does it end, when does society finally just accept everything as okay. When I said an old man marrying a young girl, then after the comma I said A Pedophile marrying a 14 year old.
Is that too hard to read?
Currently if the pedophile likes girls he can marry a 14 year old.
There are more female victims of pedophiles than there are male victims.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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Are you serious?

Coercion is forcing someone to do something you want using threats or intimidation.

If you don't understand why that is wrong, you need to be locked away.
I understand perfectly why sexual coercion is wrong. I'm a Catholic; my faith teaches it is wrong; I subscribe to a moral code with more authority than my own two-bit opinion. But the rest of you are just feeling around in the dark. You don't like it, therefore it's wrong. Not good enough. Other people like it just fine: telling them they need to be locked away isn't an argument.
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