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Old 07-13-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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Also, I posted this link in another forum, but AA has benefited men (all men, not just black) in higher education - mainly because some of the men weren't on the same level academically as the women and needed a bit of a boost.

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I've read the same. Since women constitute 55-60% of college enrollment, AA for men has sprung up, especially at the elite liberal arts colleges, in order to get to more of a 50/50 ratio. Women don't like it when they make up 60% of the population either.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: FL
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I dont play with that bs either, but I know its the reality. I think standards and expectations need to recalibrate at some point, or this trend will continue and make dating even more confusing. It should never be this hard to find a compatible mate and build a relationship, as it is today. At least for many singles out there.
You're right that there needs to be a recalibration. Dating has become so skewed in part bc of online dating over-flating certain egos. Until that recal is done dating will continue to be crazy.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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One thought on the growing issue of inequality as to jobs and salaries. People are waiting until they're older to marry. Back in the day, people tended to marry straight out of HS or college. When I got married (30 years ago), DH and I both had nothing and we both made little. Neither of us was concerned about what the other brought to the table monetarily beyond a good work ethic. We were poor, but had good educations and knew we had the hard work and smarts to better our situation. Now a days, when people start to get serious about finding a long term commitment, they've been in the work force for a while and tend have large differences in the money they earn.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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How about if you had sickle cell and you couldn't do physical work at all due to your condition. Or you had such a horrible speech impediment people couldn't understand when you talked and assumed your retarded?

People like you don't see the issues or problems other people have and label them all bums when they don't have what you think people should have. Don't blame video games or porn, that's natural.

Blame feminism, higher standards in women, uncle Sam handouts, stupid Americans who can't see outside of money and the media who loves to cause separation. These lonely educated women deserve whatever misery they get, they wanted it and they got it.

Sickle cell, speech impediments, and diseases in general have all been around for many many years. It is not what this article is getting at. Of course some people have reasons to live in their parents basement, but most do not. I still have a friend living at home because he can and its cheaper. My brother in law moved into my step moms place at 36 years old. Its just absurd.

Feminism has nothing to do with the down fall of "men" not being able to provide for THEMSELVES. We are talking one person, not two. I agree that we can pass some blame to uncle sams handouts, but that is another story. I also agree that a lonely women deserves what is coming to her, but only in the sense that if she is lonely then she obviously has something wrong with her. Not the entire male gender.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: NC
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< relatively young here, early 30

<Successful and make very good $$

<Done the dating thing and found alot of entitled princesses and bitter older females and good women, but with other baggage that kept from settling down (one had 90k in student loans as a teacher)

<Deciding on whether or not to ever have kids, leaning towards never

<Enjoying life, volunteering, balancing work, able to have hobbies

Priceless...
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:37 AM
 
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< relatively young here, early 30

<Successful and make very good $$

<Done the dating thing and found alot of entitled princesses and bitter older females and good women, but with other baggage that kept from settling down (one had 90k in student loans as a teacher)

<Deciding on whether or not to ever have kids, leaning towards never

<Enjoying life, volunteering, balancing work, able to have hobbies

Priceless...
which of the type of girls you dated were the worst?
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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< relatively young here, early 30

<Successful and make very good $$

<Done the dating thing and found alot of entitled princesses and bitter older females and good women, but with other baggage that kept from settling down (one had 90k in student loans as a teacher)

<Deciding on whether or not to ever have kids, leaning towards never

<Enjoying life, volunteering, balancing work, able to have hobbies

Priceless...
It's not easy for women doing well and dating either...I...

>Am in grad school. No student loans. Employer paying for my masters.

>Have a good paying job with room for a huge advancement once I get my masters.

> Dont want kids. Dont believe in marriage.

> Will and am dating someone with less education, makes less money and from a different social class then me (love him a ton-but he has his insecurities about our differences)

Dating is not easy for me either. Men feel inadequate even though I have always dated men who could not pay for dinners/dates etc and I didn't mind stepping up and paying for things. They always ended up becoming insecure and bitter even though I downplayed my role financially in all my relationships.

It sucks both ways.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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Yes, there are a lot more men not acting like men. Even with nice income flow some men still behave as "boys" after work hours. On video games for hours at a time., etc. However, women are become more shallow and superficial than ever. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Who knows? All I can do is be me and I have a very positive mindset. I never doubt having a wonderful life with a wonderful family and husband one day. I am just not rushing it. I prefer to not focus on the men who are "not doing this and that" and instead focus on the men who "are doing this and that". Life really can be simple.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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are young men less happy than before? No.


so insofar as i can see there is no issue. Maybe someone can explain to me why this constitutes a problem?

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http://www.economist.com/blogs/freee...ess_gender_gap

Mr. Krueger, analyzing time-use studies over the last four decades, has found an even starker pattern. Since the 1960s, men have gradually cut back on activities they find unpleasant. They now work less and relax more. Over the same span, women have replaced housework with paid work — and, as a result, are spending almost as much time doing things they don’t enjoy as in the past. Forty years ago, a typical woman spent about 23 hours a week in an activity considered unpleasant, or 40 more minutes than a typical man. Today, with men working less, the gap is 90 minutes.

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Old 07-13-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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It's not easy for women doing well and dating either...I...

>Am in grad school. No student loans. Employer paying for my masters.

>Have a good paying job with room for a huge advancement once I get my masters.

> Dont want kids. Dont believe in marriage.

> Will and am dating someone with less education, makes less money and from a different social class then me (love him a ton-but he has his insecurities about our differences)

Dating is not easy for me either. Men feel inadequate even though I have always dated men who could not pay for dinners/dates etc and I didn't mind stepping up and paying for things. They always ended up becoming insecure and bitter even though I downplayed my role financially in all my relationships.

It sucks both ways.
True... I am surprised that you have dated so many men that don't pay.

Do you see yourself having kids one day? I have heard that the lowest insurance under the new healthcare law will be $1,700/month for a family.
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