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Old 07-13-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: around racist white people
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You are right! It is always someone else's fault It's a shame we don't live in a country where we can control our own destiny to a large extent. Dang it! If we only had places we could go to get an education or marketable skills. If only we could start our own businesses. If only!

Fortunately, I know a lot of men who have not fallen into this trap. They have pursued degrees and careers that have enabled them to be very successful and productive. Also, they are strong, confident men who value intelligent, hard-working women.

Sadly, there are men who have become complete slackers. It's not the government's fault. I personally blame the parents and the men.

I say this because i have an older brother who would have fallen into this category had my parents not pushed him. He was not college material (there's nothing wrong with that) and my parents told him if he didn't go to college, then he had to learn a trade. He spent a year at a trade school learning to be a mechanic and that career has served him well during the past 20 years. Had my parents not pushed him, he would have floundered around from one dead-end job to the next. He needed direction, and my parents were instrumental in providing him with direction. But he also had to want it himself. Otherwise, he would have never completed the program or been gainfully employed during the past 20 years.

It's time we stop blaming and start doing. If you don't like how your life is going, then change it!
Realize who really benefits from affirmative action and get back to me, ill give you a hint, it ain't black men.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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The problem is successful women who think they deserve as good or better then themselves. They pass up hundreds of guys looking for someone who is up to their ridiculously high standards. Unfortunately, unlike men, many women dont want to be providers. They want the jobs that men once had, but refuse to accept a SAHD, a man who makes less, a man who doesn't drive X type of car. All those hundreds of years men chose women who really brought nothing to the table besides the ability to cook, clean and bare children and women refuse to accept a different scenario when the roles are flipped.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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The problem is successful women who think they deserve as good or better then themselves. They pass up hundreds of guys looking for someone who is up to their ridiculously high standards. Unfortunately, unlike men, many women dont want to be providers. They want the jobs that men once had, but refuse to accept a SAHD, a man who makes less, a man who doesn't drive X type of car. All those hundreds of years men chose women who really brought nothing to the table besides the ability to cook, clean and bare children and women refuse to accept a different scenario when the roles are flipped.
a lot of women dont realize that by marrying into money, it doesnt guarantee them anything and often times ends up in bitter divorce. I grew up in a wealthy county and cant tell you the amount of divorced women whose husbands have cheated on them or just have no time for their wife and kids. It use to be that men and women would fall in love based on attraction or loving the other person's personality. Now its more about what can the guy do for the girl. Is he good enough for me? Dont get me wrong, women should want and have a man that has a job and someone not living with their parents... but to demand that he be this way or that and have this type of job and what not is crazy. I cant see marriages lasting based on fake love.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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So, because women were given a chance to be successful, and succeeded, it's our fault men are living at home and mooching off their parents?
what do you mean, "fault" ?

do you consider men living at home and mooching off their parents to be a problem that should be blamed on someone?

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Men get PLENTY of opportunities, women are still only 3% of Fortune 500 CEOs, women comprise less than 3% of my chosen career field. Men need to quit blaming their lack of success on women.
Internet people notwithstanding, I don't think men at-large are blaming their lack of success on women -- I think men are redefining what constitutes "success."

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I don't think it's too much to ask that a man doesn't live with his parents, has a job and doesn't sit around playing video games, looking at porn and smoking weed all day. Apparently, not wanting those things is considered too 'upscale' now?
Someone who can't support themselves is a little extreme -- but I think the point is that more and more men are seeking a lifestyle with minimal obligations or committments, and that freedom constitutes "success."

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Old 07-13-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Canada
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*whip crack*

As a man, you women don't want these things either. If a man is successful, enjoys things like cars, hiking, biking, shopping, and lives out on his own, but unfortunately, is a little awkward, shy, polite, etc. He gets stomped on.

This post is exactly why I married my wife. A lot of the women I dated before her were just like this. Yikes..

As far as the article, I don't know what's up with the 2nd poster. But the article is really hard to read with all the woman boosting features and the self advertising manner. I don't know how many times I would read "so and so from this of this so and so.
So you are/were awkward, shy, polite but you still got a wife. Doesn't matter about all the women who "stomped on you" since you found the right one for you...
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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How about if you had sickle cell and you couldn't do physical work at all due to your condition. Or you had such a horrible speech impediment people couldn't understand when you talked and assumed your retarded?

People like you don't see the issues or problems other people have and label them all bums when they don't have what you think people should have. Don't blame video games or porn, that's natural.

Blame feminism, higher standards in women, uncle Sam handouts, stupid Americans who can't see outside of money and the media who loves to cause separation. These lonely educated women deserve whatever misery they get, they wanted it and they got it.
YESSSS!!!!!! to this.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Here and There
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Realize who really benefits from affirmative action and get back to me, ill give you a hint, it ain't black men.
Aw! I bet you have a laundry list of reasons why you and other men can't make it in this big bad world.

As I mentioned in my previous post, fortunately there are many men who have made something of themselves and haven't been sitting on their butts all day blaming someone else for their problems. If you want to talk to some of these real men, just visit your local military base, fire station or police station.

Also, I posted this link in another forum, but AA has benefited men (all men, not just black) in higher education - mainly because some of the men weren't on the same level academically as the women and needed a bit of a boost.

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Old 07-13-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Infernuan
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a lot of women dont realize that by marrying into money, it doesnt guarantee them anything and often times ends up in bitter divorce. I grew up in a wealthy county and cant tell you the amount of divorced women whose husbands have cheated on them or just have no time for their wife and kids. It use to be that men and women would fall in love based on attraction or loving the other person's personality. Now its more about what can the guy do for the girl. Is he good enough for me? Dont get me wrong, women should want and have a man that has a job and someone not living with their parents... but to demand that he be this way or that and have this type of job and what not is crazy. I cant see marriages lasting based on fake love.
Amen!

This is exactly right on target.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Infernuan
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YESSSS!!!!!! to this.
Here's another 'YESSSS!!!!!!'... spot on.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:14 AM
 
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Realize who really benefits from affirmative action and get back to me, ill give you a hint, it ain't black men.
It ain't black men? Ha ha, surely you jest. I think we men have it pretty good b/c in general, we have more of the type of intelligence that is rewarded by the marketplace, namely math and science. And if we don't, we're more likely to have the inborn traits to work in the skilled trades. For women, if they don't possess the natural intelligence and/or family background to graduate from college and/or graduate school, they don't have many options.

This is all in general, I realize many women have the traits to work in skilled trades and women are not far behind on average in terms of math and science intelligence. It's just that it's more likely that a man will be in the top 10-20% in math/science than a woman. Career success is much easier if you're very good at math and/or science.
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