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Old 08-26-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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True, nor any of the clone Republicrats we are given to "choose" from.

Ron Paul, on the other hand, COULD change things. Too bad Americans are so slow to catch on, that they have to be starving in the street to notice things have degraded.
That's one reason a collapse could ultimately end up to be the best thing.

The problem also is that more and more people are viewing the massive and very generous welfare programs as the norm, and they are viewing lack of employment as the norm. People in the age 18-24 year old range know nothing different. They think it's normal to work a few months and then get on unemployment handouts for 99 weeks.

A lot of people today weren't around pre-NAFTA. They don't have any memory of what it was once when Americans could expect to work for a living, advance. Even fewer have any adult memory of the 1970s or 1960s or 1950s. There was a time when anyone who wanted a job went out and got a job and the idea of having the government care for you your whole life would have sounded strange, now it sounds perfectly normal.

Also the job situation is changing how Americans feel about being sent to their deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military offers very nice pay and there are no jobs. Back at one time Americans questioned why they would be dying in some far off land, dying for people who despised them. Now they don't question it. It's become very normal.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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What are you trying to say?
Uh; take a good look at ANY "Hispanic" country, they're all messed up so bad they make the US look great in 2012. DON'T try to call me a racist cause Argentina is the most "white" country in N or S America; the US is "browner".
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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The problem in the long run is not the Hispanics.


The Democratic Party is lost and it has gladly welcomed Islamists so why are there Islamists with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood registering with the Republican Party? Part of the answer is that the Republican establishment is allowing them in. It is the Tea Party, which predominantly understands the Islamic threat that rejects Brotherhood elements.
Let us look at some examples.
http://www.shoebat.com/2012/08/27/infiltrated-republican-party-and-fox-news/
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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The whole system is going down


Chris Hedges: "We are witnessing the collapse of globalization" - YouTube
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Indeed it is and most people ARE UNAWARE OF ANYTHING BAD GOING ON RIGHT NOW! (They have been programmed to only listen to MSM which is keeping them terribly uninformed!)
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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If anything will cause the US to collapse, it'll be our deficit spending which began under Reagan, Bush Senior, Bush Junior, and left to Obama to clean up. The Republicans are a cancer on this country.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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A lot of people today weren't around pre-NAFTA. They don't have any memory of what it was once when Americans could expect to work for a living, advance. Even fewer have any adult memory of the 1970s or 1960s or 1950s. There was a time when anyone who wanted a job went out and got a job and the idea of having the government care for you your whole life would have sounded strange, now it sounds perfectly normal.
your living in a fantasy world if you think more people today are on welfare and working less. Today, the average american worker works more hours and is actually being paid less than a worker in the 70s. Productivity is much higher as well.

Until, Americans actually pick up a book and study things without bias, the US is doomed.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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If anything will cause the US to collapse, it'll be our deficit spending which began under Reagan, Bush Senior, Bush Junior, and left to Obama to clean up. The Republicans are a cancer on this country.
This post is a cancer of ignorance....... since it does not have any mention of the other half of the problem

Hyper partisan ignorance is a very bad disease
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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That's one reason a collapse could ultimately end up to be the best thing.

The problem also is that more and more people are viewing the massive and very generous welfare programs as the norm, and they are viewing lack of employment as the norm. People in the age 18-24 year old range know nothing different. They think it's normal to work a few months and then get on unemployment handouts for 99 weeks.

A lot of people today weren't around pre-NAFTA. They don't have any memory of what it was once when Americans could expect to work for a living, advance. Even fewer have any adult memory of the 1970s or 1960s or 1950s. There was a time when anyone who wanted a job went out and got a job and the idea of having the government care for you your whole life would have sounded strange, now it sounds perfectly normal.

Also the job situation is changing how Americans feel about being sent to their deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military offers very nice pay and there are no jobs. Back at one time Americans questioned why they would be dying in some far off land, dying for people who despised them. Now they don't question it. It's become very normal.
NOt everything is about welfare, even without welfare America cannot sustain itself from that most Americans considered standardized living these days... SUV's alone has been getting slack for years but America can't just ban them and risk upsetting a huge amount the American population...

Republicans swear welfare is the sole issue, it isn't The government wants a larger class of poor middle class Americans, that's the main goals, that's why illegals are at your schools, churches, taking jobs, using healthcare for free and so forth...

The bottom line is Americans need to do more with less...

This isn't a white vs black thing, it's a American thing... the white black thing just stirs the pot... the ending goal is the same...

Feminism in itself is causing America alot of harm, women have essentially demanded more from themselves and the man they choose to marry and that alone is a reason... the real old school GOP know all this but they risk severe backlash speaking on it...

The main reason blacks are hated so much isn't the crime, it's wanting a higher standard of living and not taking the jobs we've been used to taking all this time is America...

It's all about government, big and a poor middle class who worships them.
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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With all the talk on the news of immigration, Hispanics becoming the majority, California bankrupt, no jobs, economic collapse, 1 in 2 Americans poor, Obama, etc, how do you see the U.S. in the future?

I heard... there has been such an invasion from third world countries that all the wonderful things that L.A. has to offer have either been destroyed or are virtually impossible to get to. Many areas of L.A. have become mini-countries, you can't even read the signs on the buildings.

The truth is we are living in a dying nation that is falling apart. And it's already too late.

How do you see America in 20-50 years?

Well your way off base here. I mean you do know that an inflow of immigration shows economic strength and a growing economy. When that goes away, you better worry.

I think the bigger issue is the ability for democrats/republicans to adjust the voting lines/blocks to ensure that they don't actual have to compete against each other. Then the only thing that is required is not the actual election (which is now a farce as they have made sure the boundaries are drawn in a way to ensure victory) but satisfying the party bosses. The politicians now represent the "party" not the people. They make decisions only on party lines. . .

Look out greece/italy here we come. A US where your vote doesn't matter, no one trusts the goverment, and you better move north for a better life.
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