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I believe my original post went over some people's heads, and/or they didn't read it through. First, it was total sarcasm, when I referred to "banning guns." I am NO gun ban person. As I said, I have no problems with background checks, with convicted felon's and persons who are nut cases (proved) not being able to purchase or own firearms.
I also asked in my original post, WHAT the anti gun crowd wants? Of course, no one answered. NO ONE gave a step by step answer to what they wanted when it comes to guns. It was all "vague" and ambiguous. Liberals and their lies, always say, "reasonable gun control." Reasonable? What is reasonable?
I live in the People's Republic of Kalifornia. WE have the most restrictive gun laws in the COUNTRY. Yet, firearm violence is ASTRONOMICAL. With what occurred in Aurora, people in this state are asking for increased "gun control." What more increasing gun control can this state have? There is NOTHING this state can do, to increase "gun control," without the flat out banning of all firearms.
Let us all be honest here, for once. The liberal agenda (broad brush, I know) is to BAN private ownership of guns. Certain liberals may not like this idea, however, if it occurred, they would not balk at it either. The goal of ALL gun control groups is to BAN guns. They don't want you, me, or anyone else to own guns. They don't believe owning guns is proper.
For the crowd out there, since I've openly admitted this on this board, I am a police officer. As such, these banning laws, be it assault weapons, magazines (they are magazines people, not "clips"), et al, DOES NOT APPLY TO ME. I can buy any weapon, any number of magazines, any anything I want and then some.
However, these laws are still wrong. You can only do so much to protect people from themselves. Background checks? Yes. Waiting periods? Yes. Banning guns? No. Its a simple equation.
Broad generalization looks like what it is. I am as liberal as they come, and I have been a gun owner, hunter, and shooter for over a half century, and know a LOT of liberals who own and use firearms.
The biggest problem that we have is that the NRA people are incapable of having a rational conversation. That intractibility is far worse for their cause than compromise. The only good it does is to get people to send more money to the NRA because of constant whiny shilling by people like Wayne LaPierre, who, BTW, is the reason I quit the NRA. It used to be a good outfit, but now I put them on par with unions, totally unnecessary in most cases.
If a ban on cell phones while driving saves one life , is it worth it? Would you support it?
I would support that, but i almost can't hear in the first place... it simply doesn't effect me, which is the exact same thing for gun grabbers who know nothing of guns other than media BS.
It makes them less guilty. In this way they can feel as if they did something and 'feel good', and if gun owners give them an inch, as the OP says, which shows in Kalifonia, guns will exist no more, and when that fails sticks and stones will be banned, and of course that won't work.
Gun grabbers don't work much in metals and so know seeming little of how easy it is to make shapes in metals and create items of all shapes and sizes to fire a projectile.
Because gun grabbers can't do these feats they think no one can because of course they are some smart people.
Gun grabbers feel guilt because they know there soft liberal ways have failed and the system of justice is a revolving door system made to make profit from taxes which increase the size of Govt spending, and this is a ponzi scheme of grand proportions.
Just look at what has happened to it takes a village to raise a idiot, err I mean a child....
But then there can be no ban, as there is an impoosible amount of guns that have been legal in the USA since we won the Rev war... I hear numbers like 300 million, but my guess is more even than that.
We hear about registration too, which most states never had and won't, and even if they do no one will go get registered. Gun owners know that deal as it has happened too many times in past history.
I would support that, but i almost can't hear in the first place... it simply doesn't effect me, which is the exact same thing for gun grabbers who know nothing of guns other than media BS.
It makes them less guilty. In this way they can feel as if they did something and 'feel good', and if gun owners give them an inch, as the OP says, which shows in Kalifonia, guns will exist no more, and when that fails sticks and stones will be banned, and of course that won't work.
Gun grabbers don't work much in metals and so know seeming little of how easy it is to make shapes in metals and create items of all shapes and sizes to fire a projectile.
Because gun grabbers can't do these feats they think no one can because of course they are some smart people.
Gun grabbers feel guilt because they know there soft liberal ways have failed and the system of justice is a revolving door system made to make profit from taxes which increase the size of Govt spending, and this is a ponzi scheme of grand proportions.
Just look at what has happened to it takes a village to raise a idiot, err I mean a child....
But then there can be no ban, as there is an impoosible amount of guns that have been legal in the USA since we won the Rev war... I hear numbers like 300 million, but my guess is more even than that.
We hear about registration too, which most states never had and won't, and even if they do no one will go get registered. Gun owners know that deal as it has happened too many times in past history.
Let's be honest.
The namby pamby liberals don't want to own a gun (ewww) s-o-o-o .. They don't think that you should have one either!
How about this Lib's .. You figure out a way to 'alleviate' ALL of the guns from the criminals (and that includes Government criminals) and maybe 'then' we can discuss , law abiding citizens giving up theirs!?
Broad generalization looks like what it is. I am as liberal as they come, and I have been a gun owner, hunter, and shooter for over a half century, and know a LOT of liberals who own and use firearms.
The biggest problem that we have is that the NRA people are incapable of having a rational conversation. That intractibility is far worse for their cause than compromise. The only good it does is to get people to send more money to the NRA because of constant whiny shilling by people like Wayne LaPierre, who, BTW, is the reason I quit the NRA. It used to be a good outfit, but now I put them on par with unions, totally unnecessary in most cases.
Ok, let us agree about the NRA, etc. Now what? What gun control do you want in place, which isn't already there?
The ONLY thing we can do as a free society is have background checks and waiting periods. Those issues are already in place.
The ONLY thing left is BANNING GUNS PERIOD. And, as I have said, what would that accomplish? There are MILLIONS of guns, all unregistered, all over this country. HOW are we going to deal with those guns and even the registered ones? Ok, ban them now. It MAY have an effect in 500 years. Maybe, possibly, perhaps.
The problem is, the liberal majority, don't want to address the true issues, which I have outlined. They want to ban guns, outright, and hide behind "gun control." When the fact is, it cannot be done. However, it makes them feel good and, to a voting population, look good. THAT is the facts.
Originally Posted by cuebald
Broad generalization looks like what it is. I am as liberal as they come, and I have been a gun owner, hunter, and shooter for over a half century, and know a LOT of liberals who own and use firearms.
It is NOT generalizing when you say that it is The Liberals who lead the way when it comes to banning guns!
I know of no Constitutionalist or True conservative who wishes to do so!
Cuebald, let us know when you have crushed your guns ok?
My state considers me Independant, I consider myself a Constitutionalist, and so I believe the 1st is 1st for a reason, and the 2nd is the 2nd for a related reason.
Once a man had to back up his talk with his honor, and that was done on a field of honor. Too bad that isn't in vouge today, as there would be a lot more silence, and most people would be dammned polite.
“This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935
If a ban on cell phones while driving saves one life , is it worth it? Would you support it?
No. There are countless distractions people go through while driving, banning a single one of them won't matter.
I've seen women doing makeup while driving. People reading books or maps while driving.
We need to ban stupidity.
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