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Old 07-31-2012, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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No President in our history has insulted isarael more convincingly and more reprehensibly than Obama has.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:38 PM
 
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Looking at the current electoral projection map I provided, explain the logic underpinning your position. Is he afraid of losing KS to Obama or something?

What's your logic?
I saw your map I'm thinking more like states GA, SC, WI, MN, AZ
and yes FL. You know, where born agains abound

My logic - most Jewish voters lean DEM "social issues" and I don't see
how a stand by Israel speech is going to change that.
But acting, I mean reaching out to the GOP born again base is more
important. That's where the fire of the party is.
And, we all know....
Romney certainly needs some burnin' kindling under his ass
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:42 PM
 
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If it was genuine I could understand, but it is so superficial and staged on his part. I would think the Israelis would be more insulted than anything else!
Why is Romney kissing up to Israel? Probably because a man has zilch of a change in being elected if he doesn't.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Earth
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No President in our history has insulted isarael more convincingly and more reprehensibly than Obama has.
He didn't turn on Israel, threaten to cut off aid to Israel, or put an embargo on weapons sales to Israel. Nor did he write, "I gave strict orders to the State Department that they should inform Israel that we would handle our affairs exactly as though we didn't have a Jew in America. The welfare and best interests of our own country were to be the sole criteria on which we operated."

Presidential Papers, Doc#2063 Personal To Edward Everett Hazlett, Jr., 2 November 1956. In The Papers of Dwight David Eisenhower

Obama is no Ike.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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Israel can call any city it wants to its capitol.

The nations of the world can refuse to recognize that city as its capitol. That is precisely the situation with Jerusalem.

The question is why? The answer is complicated, but what it really boils down to is that if the nations recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel, they are essentially conceding that much of the occupied territories on the West Bank of the Jordan River which were taken by Israel in the 1967 War are now and for all time part of Israel proper. In other words, the rest of the world would be siding with Israel in its territorial dispute with the Palestinian people.

What is concerning to me is the lack of honesty over this whole issue. If Israel wanted to be honest, when it calls for international recognition of Jerusalem as its capitol it would come right out and say:

By doing this, nations of the world, you are conceding our sovereignty over most of the lands on the West Bank.

Most nations believe that Israel needs to return to something resembling its 1967 borders in return for peace with the Palestinians and their surrounding Arab neighbors. As such, they aren't about to make the mistake of granting Jerusalem international recognition as Israel's capitol and moving their embassies there.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:02 AM
 
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Why is Romney kissing up to Israel?


Probably to make up for 4 years of Obama kissing up to the terrorists and thugs of the countries surrounding it, telling Israel to go back to the pre-1967 borders, and other such outrages.

Anything else I can help you with?
Obama did it wrong. You need to go down on one knee. He can't even bow right. LOL
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Israel can call any city it wants to its capitol.

The nations of the world can refuse to recognize that city as its capitol. That is precisely the situation with Jerusalem.

The question is why? The answer is complicated, but what it really boils down to is that if the nations recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel, they are essentially conceding that much of the occupied territories on the West Bank of the Jordan River which were taken by Israel in the 1967 War are now and for all time part of Israel proper. In other words, the rest of the world would be siding with Israel in its territorial dispute with the Palestinian people.

What is concerning to me is the lack of honesty over this whole issue. If Israel wanted to be honest, when it calls for international recognition of Jerusalem as its capitol it would come right out and say:

By doing this, nations of the world, you are conceding our sovereignty over most of the lands on the West Bank.

Most nations believe that Israel needs to return to something resembling its 1967 borders in return for peace with the Palestinians and their surrounding Arab neighbors. As such, they aren't about to make the mistake of granting Jerusalem international recognition as Israel's capitol and moving their embassies there.




The jews have perverted Tel Aviv [which is almost exclusively jewish]
turning it into the Sodom of the Middle East, and now they want to
do the same with Jerusalem.


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Old 08-01-2012, 12:31 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Why is Romney kissing up to Israel?


Probably to make up for 4 years of Obama kissing up to the terrorists and thugs of the countries surrounding it, telling Israel to go back to the pre-1967 borders, and other such outrages.

Anything else I can help you with?
Obama's administration has increased drone strikes like none other and has killed WAY more high-value terrorists than Bush's admin did - OBL was just the tip of the iceberg. And in the process, right or wrong, the Obama admin has been willing to take on way more collateral deaths. He escalated the war in Afghanistan. How in the hell is this "kissing up to terrorists?" You're just making yourself sound like an out-of-touch ass.
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Old 08-01-2012, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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No President in our history has insulted isarael more convincingly and more reprehensibly than Obama has.
What are you people talking about? Where do you get this stuff? There is so much proof to the contrary on the internet, let me give you some FACTS:

Here is two-in-one(Defense Minister Ehud Barak and President Shimon Peres talking about Obama recently):

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BARAK: I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing, in regard to our security, more than anything that I can remember in the past. … In terms of the support for our security, the cooperation of our intelligence, the sharing of sorts in a very open way even when there are differences.


PERES: When I look at the record of President Obama concerning the major issues, security, I think it’s a highly satisfactory record, from an Israeli point of view.

Israeli leaders praise Obama - YouTube

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Even Blitzer took notice. “They were extremely complimentary to President Obama, both of them, even as Romney was still basically on the ground in Israel,” Blitzer said today. “I was pretty surprised by the effusive enthusiastic praise they had for President Obama given some of the problems President Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu had in their personal relationship.”
Israeli Leaders Praise Obama's Commitment To Israel's Security | ThinkProgress

The President and Defense Minister of Israel seem pretty happy with Obama to me.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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Ron Paul has jew advisors.


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Your constant use of "jew" and previous history of comments about jews gives me the creeps.

Mel Gibson is apparantly getting a run for his money from you.
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