Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Again this bizarre fantasy of the privileged Asian immigrant pops up!
No living black person in the U.S. except for an African immigrant escaping an African war can understand the Vietnamese or Laotian experience of hell on earth that they escaped from a few decades ago.
40 years ago black Americans were called the "N" word openly and were denied loans.
40 years ago a lot of Asian Americans were being napalmed, driven out of their countries with zero money and just a few shreds of clothes.
Also, you have failed to understand that the act of voicing concern about obstacles that one must overcome and the act of overcoming those obstacles is not an issue of "either/or". One can do both.
Do you honestly believe that just because a Black person excels academically, pursues higher education, earns an upper middle income living (or higher), and posesses all of the earmarks of a wealthy, successful person that they no longer experience prejudice, bigotry, racism and discrimination? And do you honestly believe that the sucessful Black person never discusses the racial discrimination that they encounter?
Lastly, Asians and Hispanics have been able to (1) take advantage of the civil rights gains that were bought and paid for with Black blood, sweat and tears and (2) they have also taken up the "model minority" mantra in order to not be placed on the bottom rung themselves.
The reason why Asian Americans do well here is this: only the best and brightest Asians are able to come here to the US. .
Really? First, that is debatable but your theory doesn't take into account the many Asian Americans that have been here for decades and still do well compared to other American minorities that have also been here for generations.
Lastly, Asians and Hispanics have been able to (1) take advantage of the civil rights gains that were bought and paid for with Black blood, sweat and tears and (2) they have also taken up the "model minority" mantra in order to not be placed on the bottom rung themselves.
The first strike for Ethnic studies occurred in 1968, (led by Third World Liberation Front,TWLF, a joint effort of the Black Student Union, Latin American Students Organization, Asian American Political Alliance, Pilipino American Collegiate Endeavor, and Native American Students Union at San Francisco State University); it was the longest student strike in the nation's history, and resulted in the establishment of a School of Ethnic studies, when President S.I. Hayakawa ended the strike by taking a hardline approach, appointed Dr. James Hirabayashi the first dean of the School (now College) of Ethnic studies at San Francisco State University,[1] and increased recruiting and admissions of students of color in response to the strike's demands. In 1972, The National Association for Ethnic Studies was founded to foster interdisciplinary discussions for scholars and activists concerned with the national and international dimensions of ethnicity.
But you know, at some point someone decided it was a lot better to pit blacks and asians against each other. Divide and conquer.....
Your views actually mirror his in many ways. Not to mention that the "non-sequitir" in question happened to merit tacit approval on your part. I guess that places you in the troll department as well.
The way some of you talk, you would think the majority of black folks are poverty-stricken and criminal minded. Don't many of you understand that the majority of blacks are just the opposite?
Some of you say: Well, sure blacks had a rough start, so what's their excuse now? Why are they doing so bad?
Well, I will ask you: Whites have had a 400+ year head start with no slavery (don't give me that indentured servitude crap), no forced separation of family, no lynchings, no segregation, no denial of access to housing, higher education,etc? With all of these benefits, why is there still an underclass white population in the US? What is your excuse for being a loser, when you've had all of the privilege and advantage of being white?
BTW, have some of you even researched the education, socio-economic success of Asians in their home countries? They way some of you talk, you'd think Asian countries were overflowing with Ivy League contenders. The Asian population in the US is a very select representation of the high-achievers. Not all Asians are rocket scientists in the making.
Really? First, that is debatable but your theory doesn't take into account the many Asian Americans that have been here for decades and still do well compared to other American minorities that have also been here for generations.
Decades vs generations of oppression and degradation. Hmmmmm......
But you know, at some point someone decided it was a lot better to pit blacks and asians against each other. Divide and conquer.....
Plus Asians long made strides well before dr. King came onto the scene. Asian students were noted for being among the best, this was when the west coast had segregated schools. Also the we get their best theory falls flat when the Asian tigers enter the convo, I'm referring to Taiwan, Singapore, etc.
The way some of you talk, you would think the majority of black folks are poverty-stricken and criminal minded. Don't many of you understand that the majority of blacks are just the opposite?
Some of you say: Well, sure blacks had a rough start, so what's their excuse now? Why are they doing so bad?
Well, I will ask you: Whites have had a 400+ year head start with no slavery (don't give me that indentured servitude crap), no forced separation of family, no lynchings, no segregation, no denial of access to housing, higher education,etc? With all of these benefits, why is there still an underclass white population in the US? What is your excuse for being a loser, when you've had all of the privilege and advantage of being white?
BTW, have some of you even researched the education, socio-economic success of Asians in their home countries? They way some of you talk, you'd think Asian countries were overflowing with Ivy League contenders. The Asian population in the US is a very select representation of the high-achievers. Not all Asians are rocket scientists in the making.
The black underclass equals the white underclass in most cases, that's why the south has the bulk of welfare recipients and the racial gap is smallest in that region......culture matters. Asians run the full gamut, but it's a percentage game and the Asians shine the brightest up to the point that certain powers thy be ignore them out for agenda sake.
1) they study way harder than other races and usually are top performers. For Asian families, be top 10% in class is like the minimum requirement and parents can't tolerate anything lower. Asian parents don't say "you did a great job" when their kids actually suck
2) they work harder and whine much much less. They feel less entitled to this and that than white Americans for sure. They know they are the minority and everyone is not easy
3) they save a lot more and spend a lot less (why they don't end up homeless). You seldom see an Asian in deep credit card debt because they never spend money they haven't made yet
4) they consider being poor and accept social welfare extremely humiliating. They would take any work, even for $5 an hour as long as they don't end up begging. Look at the beggars on the street. Have you ever seen a single 30 something Asian man begging for money on the street?
Asian American not only have the lowest unemployment rate, but also the highest education, highest average household income.
They start working after school, instead of traveling in Europe for 6 months because they need to "find themselve"
1) they study way harder than other races and usually are top performers. For Asian families, be top 10% in class is like the minimum requirement and parents can't tolerate anything lower. Asian parents don't say "you did a great job" when their kids actually suck
Have you seen the poverty that exists in Asian countries? There are MILLIONS of Asians who are uneducated peasants.
BTW, the rigid requirements that some Asian parents demand, can be extremely stressful. Suicide is an issue.
Quote:
2) they work harder and whine much much less. They feel less entitled to this and that than white Americans for sure. They know they are the minority and everyone is not easy
Where is your proof of this?
Quote:
3) they save a lot more and spend a lot less (why they don't end up homeless). You seldom see an Asian in deep credit card debt because they never spend money they haven't made yet
My husband works in banking. He services (and works with) Asians. One lady explained a system where many Asians will get loans on behalf of their family members to start a business. Some Asians also borrow from each other within their own communities. So, while they make not take on "traditional" debt, many take out loans.
Quote:
4) they consider being poor and accept social welfare extremely humiliating. They would take any work, even for $5 an hour as long as they don't end up begging. Look at the beggars on the street. Have you ever seen a single 30 something Asian man begging for money on the street?
Again, have you ever seen the poor populations that exist in Asian countries?
Quote:
Asian American not only have the lowest unemployment rate, but also the highest education, highest average household income.
They start working after school, instead of traveling in Europe for 6 months because they need to "find themselve"
The Asian population in the US is not representative of all Asians. It stands to reason that the best, brightest and most-hard working will find their way to America. Your theory would hold water if Asians excelled at home, as well as they do in the US.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
