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View Poll Results: Should the South secede? Where are you from?
Yes - I'm a Northerner 29 20.00%
No opinion - I'm a Northerner 4 2.76%
No - I'm a Northerner 24 16.55%
Yes - I'm a Southerner 16 11.03%
No opinion - I'm a Southerner 3 2.07%
No - I'm a Southerner 31 21.38%
Yes - I'm neither 16 11.03%
No opinion - I'm neither 5 3.45%
No - I'm neither 17 11.72%
Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-12-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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Are Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri considered part of the South?
In terms of ignorance and clueless voters...yes.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Well for one, they can't, its illegal since the 14th amendment was ratified.

Secondly, we aren't a states rights country anymore, regardless of state. People like big, federal programs, but as Marcus Anthony once said "evil oft live after them, and the good is interred with the bones ".

And lastly, just because all of the electoral votes from my state may go to someone I don't support, it doesn't mean I don't love my state. It just means I want to change it.

The electoral college system has made it a us vs them.mentality, regardless of state. The reality is that the actual population is much more dynamic then a conservative liberal argument.
I disagree. We are becoming a more and more dissimilar people. I believe the concept of multiculturalism is helping along this process. That and the democratic party success with identity politics. Either way there are cracks appearing in the fabric of this nation.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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What would be the point?
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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Maybe Obama can run a nation of pseudo-intellectual liberals with no skills to build a new nation of @sswholes.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I disagree. We are becoming a more and more dissimilar people. I believe the concept of multiculturalism is helping along this process. That and the democratic party success with identity politics. Either way there are cracks appearing in the fabric of this nation.
I'm southern, born, breed, raised.

I've also lived in lots of places all over the country.

The cultures aren't that different.

I've been to bum ****ed Arkansas, and I've been to hell Michigan.

Not that different.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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We all know how well that worked out last time they tried it. That said...

Too many people have moved from state to state over the last 150 years. "The South" does not mean what it used to mean. The political and cultural divisions in this country are no longer geographic. If the south seceded, they would be taking a vast number of liberals with them, and leaving a vast number of conservatives behind.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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What would be the point?
Speaking for myself, preserving my culture and actually having a government that represented the needs, values, and aspirations of me and mine.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I personally think you Blue states that are so tired of carrying our load in the south should just move to kick us out... There is your answer. Then we could stop listening to your whining.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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We all know how well that worked out last time they tried it. That said...

Too many people have moved from state to state over the last 150 years. "The South" does not mean what it used to mean. The political and cultural divisions in this country are no longer geographic. If the south seceded, they would be taking a vast number of liberals with them, and leaving a vast number of conservatives behind.
People vote with their feet all the time. I did when I came back home. Besides, if you feel we are a united people.........you haven't been reading any of these posts. Besides, this isn't really about the north/south exactly. It's more of a blue state/red state thing. Culturally speaking there's a world of difference between here and the left coast and the northeast, typical liberal bastions.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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I'm southern, born, breed, raised.

I've also lived in lots of places all over the country.

The cultures aren't that different.

I've been to bum ****ed Arkansas, and I've been to hell Michigan.

Not that different.
I disagree.
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